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CGI-Quality said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

No, you said I know exactly what is in the box.  I never said that.  I only know the same info that everyone else knows.  Based on that info, the PS5 sounds powerful and therefore pricey. 

The only absolute I am saying is that high power goes hand-in-hand with high price.  Is that the absolute you are combating?  

It means you speak of these things like they are sure to happen (or have happened). Ex: 'Sounds powerful, must be pricey'. 'Bad decisions being made'. I'm saying that I don't agree, especially with the limited info we have. No way to know if any of this has been a bad call or if the system will be particularly high (anything over $499). No finalized specs. No release date. Hell, not even a name.

Well, I never met anyone before who wasn't confident enough to call it a PS5 based on their past naming conventions.  And yeah, a powerful console always leads to a pricey console.  That is what has happened with every powerful console in the past.  My "absolutes" are based on what we already know has happened before. Are you uncomfortable drawing conclusions based on past information?  

Also $499 fits my definition of pricey.  $399 has proven to be reasonable.  $449 is pushing it.  $499 and up is pricey.  I don't know what the price will be yet, but it is looking pricey based on the information we have.  We'll have to see if it goes that way.

forevercloud3000 said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

That article has some interesting info indeed.  Here is what I get from a business perspective.


Pros:
-Disc based
-Backwards Compatibility


Cons:
-Powerful (pricey?)
-VR is going to be a priority
-Not releasing this year


So far PS5 is not doing too hot.  It is looking kind of like the PS3, but it may be too early to tell.  If they are smart they will do an early 2020 release, and maybe the VR is mostly talk.  We'll see.

The only thing that is really a con is the price(potentially).

Why would Sony continuing to support a market they are leading the charge in be a negative? VR's existence has not meant we lose regular gaming on PS4, why would it mean that for PS5? They just want us to know they will not be repeating the Vita with putting out a device and not supporting it after a short while. Thats a very good thing.

Not releasing this year means nothing....yet. While I do think MS will be launching this holiday, A PS5 would almost assuredly debut early Feb/March 2020 then. Sony wouldn't offer up an entire year to MS. Rumor is MS wants to hit from two different points anyway. One depowered discless system and one mega system at later date, prob to go up against PS5 release. Nevertheless, Sony's PS4 is still in a fruitful twilight, on track to sale past PS1 sales record this year.  They also still have several big exclusive titles to carry them strongly for next year.

Sony's position is honestly stronger than ever.

VR is a niche market.  I'm not sure if PS5 will treat it as a big market or treat it as a niche market.  If they invest heavily in VR, then they are going to lose heavily just like the Virtual Boy did.  Not a good idea.  If they give it lip service and release a handful of minor games, then they are going to be fine.

Not releasing this year is a mistake, but it's not a big deal if they launch early 2020.  If they wait longer than that, then it could turn out really bad for them.  Lots of tough competition is heating up right now: Microsoft, Google, Epic Games, and Nintendo, which already has a successful console that has been out for two years.  The longer they wait, the more chances they give the competition to get a leg up on them.

But yeah, if they release Feb/March 2020, then they are fine on that front.