| Johnw1104 said: I don't get the Mary Sue argument with her. She definitely achieved a degree of control over the force far faster than was reasonable and her proficiency with a light saber was pretty much ridiculous (though she did get her ass kicked by Luke without him breaking a sweat)... hopefully they make an attempt to explain that (Anakin was likewise bizarrely proficient with the force as a young child, so perhaps a connection like that could explain it). *Edit* Just wanted to say that I otherwise really like the cast of the series, but damn was the overall "lesson" of Last Jedi a muddled mess. The main focus seemed to be on that difficult balance between obedience for the sake of unity and strength but also questioning at what point a person should disobey an authority. In both instances I believe the film got it wrong lol First, Po ABSOLUTELY should have done what he did given that nitwit they had in charge lead them all to believe they were just going to die without putting up any real effort, and yet he's the one who seemed to be portrayed as being "wrong". Later, Rose disobeyed orders to save Finn with some sentimental nonsense like "we won't win the war by sacrificing love" or something of that sort. Finn had been fully cognizant of the situation and had decided to make a truly heroic sacrifice to save their movement, and yet she decided to intercede. In doing so Rose essentially doomed them to immediate death and destruction barring some "deus ex machina" miracle which, of course, did appear, and yet Rose was portrayed as having done the right thing, when in the reality she had created they'd have maybe 3 minutes to kiss before they and every one of their rebel friends were murdered because of her actions. Totally seems worth it and not at all selfish of her. So yeah, the Last Jedi is just a tragedy of missed opportunities and muddled messaging... I hope this next one can redeem the story to some extent. |
She's a Mary Sue, because she meets the textbook criteria for it. Here's a good vid to explain it.
Of course, this was released before the 2nd movie came out, which just reinforced her Mary Sue status. She has no origin that would explain her powers. Even if she was Luke or Obi-Wan's daughter, that explains nothing. Sure, that would make her Force sensitive, but that doesn't explain her being so powerful with no training. Even if she had some training as a kid, that doesn't explain it, as even Anakin, the Chosen One, had to go through a decade or more of training to defeat a trained Sith. Her having a year or two of it, at best, when she was young just doesn't cut it.
She knocked Luke to the ground with no real struggle. She helped take on elite guards with no lightsaber training. The force of an exploding lightsaber to their faces knocks out Kylo for probably a half an hour, but she gets up instantly without any sign that it hurt. She can lift up boulders that even Yoda would struggle with, yet she didn't even break a sweat.
Also, what movie did you watch? Sure, she confronted the Dark Side when she meditated, but that means absolutely nothing considering it had no affect on her at all. No corruption. Not even a hint that she wants to use its power. She even went into the "Dark Side cave" and nothing happened to her. When given the choice to pick a more grey path with Kylo, she refused without any real hesitation. Every Jedi has been teased by the Dark Side, some even corrupted by it, but not MaRey Sue. She's 100% good.
