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Runa216 said:
JamesGarret said:
And yes I agree with your opinion they went a bit too far with the last boss, there was no need at all for four phases in this battle.

That final boss is so frustrating I'm seriously considering just giving up. It's not fun at all, and I'm at max health and strength I can be at this level in the game. Every other boss was hard and required learning to overcome, but the more I played the better I got, and the better I got the closer I came to beating it...

...but Isshin the Sword Saint is just seven levels of bullshit. Three days later stuck on that boss and I don't feel I've made any progress or gotten better. There are moves he does that I anticipate and react to and SOMETIMES it works, but sometimes it does not. I've been hit when jumping over a sweep, slammed back when I did a mikiri counter, am hit about 50% of the time Ishin in his second phase does the downward slam despite that being the 'easy to avoid and cheese' move in his arsenal. I block and deflect perfectly about 80% of the time but other times I get hit anyway, and some moves - if you're not already in the position to jump or run away - are virtually impossible to dodge or evade if you're too close. 

This game went from being the best game I've played since Bloodborne to a game I am so angry with I seriously considered snapping the disc so that it couldn't hurt me or anyone else any more. 

Demon of Fire? Blah, half an hour and a dozen tries, had him beat. Owl? Actually pretty easy if you're smart and patient. Genichiro? tough early game but not bad once you get to know him. Lady butterfly? actually pretty easy once you figure out how to deflect her attacks and knock her from the rafters/wires. Guardian ape? Use fireworks in round 1 and be patient in round 2. most of the minibosses? Almsot all of them can be cheesed, stealth attacked, or gradually chipped away at if you're smart. 95% of this game is tough but fair - just like Souls should be - but Isshin is a fucking nightmare and he puts me in a sour mood every time I attempt to attack him. 

I feel bad because I spent the last few days rolling my eyes at John for nearly givng up so close to the end, but having not made a lick of progress I'm considering doing the same. Unlike John, I haven't even made it to the final phase. No matter what I do I cannot avoid dying almost instantly on Isshin's second phase. Blocking, evading, cheesing, it doesn't matter. That phase seems to have a perfect lock on me and I Can't deflect, dodge, jump over, or mikiri counter any of his moves. Utter bullshit. I hate it. I've never had a single boss make me hate a game so much, especially not after how much I LOVED the rest of the game. 

Are you on the PS4 or PC.  I find that there is this bit of imput lag that really gets on my nerves when I only want 2 slashes and get 3.  Also John is right that combat arts sometimes get in the way as I find myself going for a parry and hiting L1 and R1 together getting a combat art which of course then I get punished for the mistake.  I usually take it off on boss fights unless its good for that boss.