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Machiavellian on 26 March 2019
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DarthMetalliCube said:

Good. Short of physical threats or inciditing riots/property damage, etc, anyone and everyone should be allowed speech about whatever they want without them or their listeners having fear of being harrassed, egged, or wacked over the head with bike locks by neo-Fascist groups like Antifa (and yes, Fascist is what they are). Let the public decide for themselves what they can hear, what's sensible, what contains good ideas and what don't. Others don't get to make that decision for them. At least not in this country.

I would typically think an executive order like this is excessive and redundant, but in our current climate in this country, where people think it's acceptable to riot and burn shit, harrass listeners of a speaker, block off entrances, etc because "muh feelings", desperate times call for desperate measures.

Let's not forget that Ben Shapiro, a pretty reasonable center-right-libertarian speaker needed like hundreds of thousands of dollars in security to ward off the Fascists, to make a speech whose central theme was essentially "think for yourself, work hard for yourself. Don't succumb to crippling identity politics"..

Something NEEDED to be done.

If the speech/speaker is idiotic/psychotic enough, the vast majority of people won't listen to them anyway, so what exactly are people worried about. More speech should be encourage, always. Never less.

An executive order doesn't address any of that.  If someone assault someone speaking their mind, we have a criminal court already lined up to prosecute them for it.  If people protest about something that cause harm, damage or any of those things we have courts to prosecute them.  An executive order is not going to stop protest or any of those things since they are already covered by law.

Colleges already have policy on free speech and if its doesn't fall within line with the constitution then just like we see today, they can be taken to court and sued.  Nothing changes with this EO because there is nothing behind it.  There is no guideline of what this EO does because the President and his administration couldn't be arsed with doing their work first before throwing this out into the wild.