NASA warming scientist: This is the last chance "We're Toast"

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superchunk said:

Bolded is greatly untrue.

As I mentioned, watch "An Inconvient Truth". At the end Gore shows that we do not have to do dramtic changes to immediately affect global warming for the better.

Simply remove all regular light bulbs with halogen, which I personally don't understand why you wouldn't want to use them, has a dramatic change across the board in terms of energy consumption which in turn reduces the waste put out by electricity plants.

Combine that with realistic drop in emissions in newer vehicles, which Europe and other countries have already began implementing, and that actually causes the rate of change to level off.

The problem is there are too many people who get very rich based on how things are now and these changes will cause them, not us, to lose some money. Therefore, they push their agenda to our wonderful lobbiest system and help stop change.

Need proof, google the history of Home Depot and ceiling fans. HD almost single handingly stopped all legislature that would have forced them to be dramatically more energy efficient. However, since HD owns a very large percentage of the ceiling fan business these changes would have cost them a decent chunk of income. Thus, they used their lobbying powers to stop ALL pressure to make the fans more efficient.

Search Tesla motors. They have already proved you can make a viable electric car that uses NO OIL and produces no emissions. Granted, it would cause you to use more electricity, but the energy consumption in that exchange is far less than the current gasoline powered vehicles.

Actually read about the Kyoto Accords that the current administrations turned their noses up to. These changes would not have killed our economy, etc, blah blah.

We (US) produce more waste than the next few countries combined. We should spend more money to fix the problem since we are the primary cause. Soon, though, we won't have that title. China and India are quickly catching us and with a much larger population they will certainly be the nail in the Earth's coffin if we don't change soon and guide them in the same direction.

Again, I encourage all of you to put aside stupid political leanings and just watch "An Inconvient Truth". It is really a well done, purely scientific look at global warming.

 

Okay, I'll toss my little eye opener into the mix. Do you realize that they have found that when those "environmentally safe" halogen light bulbs break, the surrounding area has a mercury content roughly 100x what is considered safe? Have you seen how a garbage truck works, or even a recycling truck? It doesn't matter which you do, expecting those lightbulbs to not get broken at some point is just plain foolish.

When those lithium ion battery cars end up in accidents, you need a hazmat team to respond. Not only that, but have you ever noticed that early "green cars" and even a lot of the latest ones are designed to be the most uncomfortable aerodynamic thing ever? I wonder how much of their fuel efficiency is related to electricity, and how much is related to tossing out comfort and convenience in place of reducing wind resistance.

But people don't think about this crap. They see something that's been labeled "good for the environment!" and they cream their pants for captain planet.

A (believed)rare long tailed tufted titmouse is found in some guys backyard? Forget natural selection, WE HAVE TO SAVE IT OR IT WIL LEAVE A GAPING CHASM IN NATURE'S PLAN! Even though it doesn't do anything different from, and could easily be replaced by, ANY mouse.
Don't forget: HUMAN'S ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING BAD ON EARTH. Therefor, in order to SAVE THE TITMOUSE, he's no longer allowed to live at home or touch his yard, because it would disturb the titmouse. Nevermind that the titmice eat the birdseed he's been putting out and only live in his yard because he keeps the grass and his garden maintained.

 

It's the biggest scam in the world, except the people running it don't want money, they want CONTROL. Do you want to know how this is absolutely 100% Confirmably true? They constantly claim that there are no dissenting scientific studies. They actually are going around claiming that every scientist around teh globe has agreed that there is global warming, that it is not going to correct itself, and it is the direct fault of human action on earth.

But there ARE. There are TONS of scientist, in articles all over the place pointing out that this could be a natural cycle of the earth, pointing out that it may be related to solar activity, pointing out flaws in the studies that "prove" global warming, pointing out tampering with the data and innacuracies in models used.

But nope, it doesn't matter. They're obviously just big oil company chronies who are paying them off so people keep paying for gas guzzling cars. Who could possibly benefit from being able to pass all these various laws and regulations and fees in the name of environmental safety?

And for those claiming "No Economic Impact" I just have to laugh. United States, and MAYBE some European coutries are actually going to follow any environmental protocols. You think the UN is actually going to force China to start following those things? And not just say "okay" when China lies to their face and tell them they already are reducing their emmisions and such? I bet you could sell popcorn for the sheer diplomatic waffling and getting nowhere that takes place for that one, until it runs into the next century anyway.

And when we have to spend 100x as much to make a product because it's "environmentally friendly" are we going to stick with that? Not a fat chance. Union labor drove up our cost of production, and what happened? We went to China and other 3rd world countries to make our crap, and when environmental issues hit, we're gonna turn to them even more, and we're not going to have ANY exports. Good luck with the economy then.