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the-pi-guy said:
jason1637 said:

Well if a criminal illegally has a gun and you got a gun legally and then they pull up on a family member with a gun you can defend yourself and your family with your gun. The legal system won't do much to help you in that moment.

The issue is that for every instance of "good guy with a gun stops bad guy with a gun", there's 10 instances where there's no way that could have happened in the first place.  (And other countries seem to have more success with preventing those in the first place).  

Is there really? Im really curious whats the ratio between people protecting themselves with guns to people using guns for criminal acts.