Pemalite said:
jason1637 said:
Personally, I'm not one to risk my life for people im not close with. I do like helping people if i can but would not risk my life for a random person.
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That is sad to see... And is very much part of what is wrong with society of today.
People aren't willing to help each other... They are quick to moan about migrants, but not willing to assist their neighbor in need.
jason1637 said:
Someone having no family members to care for is pretty rare though. But in such a situation the person should have saved for retirement throughout their career because living on social security alone would actually be a struggle.
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And yet it does happen.
And they might have saved for retirement for their entire life... But then you have things like the Global Financial Crisis that happened.
If living on social security is a struggle, then increase it.
jason1637 said:
We have been doing more recently. The opportunities zone ec Trump signed a few months ago and the First step acts were good steps in investing in poor neighborhoods and fixing our criminal justice system. We can and should do more though.
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All nations should strive for that, irrespective of leader.
If Trump is doing a good job on this front (I have no idea) then credit needs to be given where credit is due, regardless of what anyone thinks of him as an individual.
jason1637 said:
Yeah but you mentioned society taking care of people. Charities should be the way its done instead of the government. In theory a good society will have charities that don't run out of donated money since people would continue to contribute ot them.
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Charities don't automatically disappear thanks to social security. They are there to augment it still and will generally increase the standard of living even more... It also means that charities can invest in other avenues... Like safe houses for those trying to escape domestic violence.
jason1637 said:
But if there were less or no welfare programs the government could cut down more on taxes to the middle class and poor which would give them more spending power. Also other types of taxes like corporate taxes could be cut which would also help the economy.
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The poor don't benefit as much from tax breaks as one would think, they are poor for a reason and usually it's due to income limitations...
What is the tax rate on the US minimum wage? And how much extra money would said individual gain per hour with a tax rate cut? It's not going to be much at the USA's stupidly low minimum wage rate that's for sure.
I guess my perspective on all of this is probably going to be different... As my own country has a very successful social security system that has done more good than harm and tends to trend higher in regards to standard of living in most aspects... And that is with moderate tax rates too.
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I'm not saying i'm not willing to help other because I am. I'm just not as willing to help random people if I would have to risk my life. I feel most people can relate to this because i doubt lots of people would risk their life to help a stranger.
People know that they are going to retire even if they have no money or not. They should take this responsibility into their own hands and manage their funds so they can have enough when they eventually do retire. At most SS should only be available for those who are unable to work due to disabilities and maybe other reasons.
Yeah even after Trump is not President anymore we should continue to invest in poor communities and fix the criminal justice system. At least we can agree on that XD.
Charities are good and imo they should be the ones to handle welfare initiatives. The government should push people into the right direction but not hold their hands like we do today.
If there are no social security or welfare programs not only can taxes be cut on the middle class and poor but we can also invest in these communities to push people in a direction of greater wealth instead of just giving them stuff. There are a lot of other ways the government can help its people without welfare and social security.
