DonFerrari on 11 March 2019
zorg1000 said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
You are missing the forest for the trees.
My point wasn't that Nintendo deserves more criticism than Capcom, or that the cases are the same. They aren't. My point is that it is ironic because Nintendo has done similar things and gets way more defenders for those practices and nowhere near the hate that a company like Capcom does. Now if you're telling me that there is nuance in there - I already know that. But I don't think that nuance completely erases the irony, because it's a non-point. Of course Nintendo is going to have more new releases than Capcom and are going to be in better standing with Switch fans ... it's their console. If the comparison was to a company that had the output that Nintendo has had on Switch, but with no strings attached, then yeah there wouldn't be irony. But because Nintendo is the standard on Nintendo consoles and yet has done many of the same things while getting many defenders ... I can't help but think there is - yes - a degree of irony. That's where irony comes from, not just the fact that another company does it, but that Nintendo does it.
You're not telling me anything new by saying Nintendo is better than Capcom, you're just missing my point.
And yes - Nintendo get anywhere from little to a lot of criticism for these things (depending on the topic, as we are talking about pricing, codes and ports in general ... three loaded topics). However that is again missing the point. The point wasn't that Nintendo doesn't get it. The point is that they get so many defenders for similar things - when Nintendo does it it's a nuanced divisive discussion with a lot of defenses that go from well thought-out to frankly ridiculous. It is never nearly all hate or negativity and in fact is almost entirely positive aside from a few people who are often alienated for being critical (I know this well being a Wii U owner). If conversation was that balanced I would not be talking here .. lol
I think both companies could be criticized, the difference is that one is given almost nothing but shit while another is given a lot of positive defense. And so I adjust my reference accordingly. Yeah, Nintendo is better. That is hardly surprising and I expect more of them anyways. You rarely see Nintendshit.
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I see where you're coming from and I think it's just that its easier to defend someone's mistakes when they also do alot of positive things vs someone who almost exclusively does shitty practices.
Tropical Freeze being $60, Bayonetta 1 not being on disc & number of late ports are totally valid criticisms but they are easier to overlook when Nintendo is also pumping out new good or great games at a pretty steady pace.
On the other hand pretty much every Capcom game on Switch has some form of controversy. They either require a download for physical version, are digital only in Europe or more expensive compared to other consoles. These are hard to defend because it's with basically all of their games and they have shown no interest in releasing any current games for the platform.
Just a random analogy, its easier to defend or overlook an employees mistakes when they work hard and put effort into their job compared to the person who takes no pride in their job and just shows up for the paycheck.
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Guess you weren't on the The Last of Us Remastered thread and how much shitty Sony got for it. And it certainly isn't the case of Sony only making old ports for full price and this was a less than 1 year old and launched for 40 USD if I remember right.
