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DonFerrari said:
Mr Puggsly said:

I'd argue Crackdown 3 is well optimized considering we've seen numerous games really struggle with UE4. Its a very GPU intensive engine but has great looking effects.

The new Yoshi game on Switch has impressive graphics and its 60 fps, but its a platformer running well below 720p docked.

I feel like giving a game a lower score because the MP sucks should also means any game lacking MP deserves a lower score. I simply dont think the MP matters, its the campaign people are promarily enjoying.

Anyhoo, people are disagreeing with the critics because its a fun and polished game. Anytime I've played a game with a score around 60 on metacritic generally has obvious problems. Its seems more like critics dont like Crackdown 3 is doing versus genuine problems.

Well optmized isn't lack of bugs (that would be more like polished) is a different story then on being "heavy on assets, low on the impact". So if a game doesn't look to be pushing the technical aspects and still need a good HW I wouldn't say the code is well optimized. KH3 is made with UE4 as well as many great looking games, so I find it hard to say CD3 is the best in optmization.

There is a very big difference between not being part of the game (and we have seem critics take points from some great games from the lack of MP or SP campaign). And a game usually is considered as bad as its worse portion. So there have also been great games that lost points from having glaring mistakes on the extra content pumped in.

People disagreeing are people that really like the game and are upset with the score. 

Mr Puggsly said:

I could say a game is incomplete for not having MP and should always take a hit for not having it.

Hence, its kinda like punishing a game for having extra content. People who play Crackdown are there for the campaigns, the MP is inconsequential. This isn't Gears or Halo which have a huge focus on MP.

Already said that some games have lost good points from not having a feature the reviewer wanted, and usually games lose points from extra content that wasn't good.

So if you think the MP is shitty, then it really should impact the total score and the 60 doesn't seem like unfair score.

Mr Puggsly said:

I saw the Digital Foundry video before I saw the reviews. After watching that video, I assumed Crackdown 3 was gonna get solid scores because they delivered what Crackdown fans want.

To the contrary, what Crackdown fans wanted doesn't appear to be what critics wanted. Too much of a throwback, not fresh enough, not doing what modern open world games are doing, etc. Some critics just don't enjoy the arcade action either I guess. Yet the New Super Mario Bros U port on Switch gets an 80? As a long time Mario fan, that game was a huge disappointment and a half assed rehash. But hey, to each his own.

A game should never be evaluated by how much its fanbase like it, if that was the case most games would get much bigger scores)

Again you demonstrate you don't really know much but you talk anyway. Crackdown 3 performs well, has a relatively high resolution for UE4, the presentation is sharp and clean looking, great use of effects, its not considered buggy, therefore its a polished product.

KH3 IS NOT considered polished. I assume it still has an erratic frame rate, runs on at a significantly lower resolution on base X1 and its a linear game in comparison.

Again, a game as polished as Crackdown 3 and with no glaring flaws generally don't score a 60. Less than upset, I think people find it a odd.

 

So you agree with me, critics arbitrarily decide when to ding a game for its MP or lack of? Stop bloviating and just admit I'm right.

 

I did not say a game should be reviewed based on fan opinions, that's dumb. Here's a thought, people praised Sonic Mania for just being more 16-bit era Sonic. People like NSMB because its like classic Mario games.  Mario Kart hasn't changed much since the Gamecube release. So why can't Crackdown just be more Crackdown?

Essentially you have fans that just wanted more of the same and are enjoying it. Its a polished game called Crackdown doing what its supposed to do. The critics on the other hand seem to feel Crackdown needed to change open world genre or something. I think that's where the disconnect is. Other IPs can stay the same and get praise, but Crackdown could not be that I guess.



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