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Pemalite said:

PC has had portable devices for years... We can't forget mobile devices either like Tablets and Phones.
In saying that... The Switch is also a home console... So it competes with the Xbox and Playstation, those are it's direct competitors.

DonFerrari said:

Let's see how many Sony fans here would agree that Sony likely won't release a new portable because they don't think they can compete with Nintendo on it after Vita, versus how many Nintendo fans will admit Nintendo haven't been able to compete with Sony and MS on console market since N64? Lost twice, then on the last 3 gens releases consoles that go far to not directly compete with both?

I think it's a bit of a disservice claiming that just because you didn't have the most sales in a console generation that somehow it's a "failure" anyway.
The Playstation Portable for example might have only shifted 82~ million consoles verses Nintendo DS's 154~ million consoles.
But 82~ million is still a bloody good number of units to have shifted... It's just comparatively it doesn't seem as successful.

I think if a console has a good games library... Then from a consumers perspective, it doesn't really matter if it sold 5 million or 500 million hardware units, right?

The Nintendo 64 for instance might have failed relative to the Playstation 1 in terms of sales... But anyone who owned a Nintendo 64 likely has stupidly fond memories of it, especially once you start talking Goldeneye.

Selling less than your competitor certainly isn't failure by default (funny enough there is a thread with discussion on this merits going on). But looking at how N64, GC and arguably WiiU (some say Nintendo tried to get back competing with MS and Sony in this one) shows they had a hard time competing and this led to Wii and Switch conception. PSP done great and thus Sony put PSVita which failed to compete and thus I and many others find it hard that Sony will try a portable so soon.

So I'm not sure how you interpreted my post, because your reply although completely right and having merit doesn't seem to be replying to my point.

Megiddo said:
DonFerrari said:

Let's see how many Sony fans here would agree that Sony likely won't release a new portable because they don't think they can compete with Nintendo on it after Vita, versus how many Nintendo fans will admit Nintendo haven't been able to compete with Sony and MS on console market since N64? Lost twice, then on the last 3 gens releases consoles that go far to not directly compete with both?

I will absolutely agree that Sony likely won't release a new portable because they don't think they can compete with Nintendo. Sony is kicking ass right now by focusing on the dedicated home console. There's no reason for them to go through that again. Just like by combining their handheld and home console there is no reason for Nintendo to make a dedicated home console. Sony and Nintendo are both putting money into what they are best at and are both doing extremely well because of it.

For both companies it's better that they both have their space where they profit most (for customer certainly most will say they would prefer more competition). Just looking at the revenue through the systems it seems Sony is faring much better focusing on PS4 than they were with PSP and PSVita, same for Nintendo when looking at most of their consoles versus HH and now Switch.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."