Should US companies be able to fire/layoff US citizens to hire a cheaper employee through H-1B visa ?

[Bofferbrauer2]

NightlyPoe said:

Bofferbrauer2 said:

Thing is, entrepreneurs and economists were already warning about that practically since the reunification, as more and more Germans decided that studying would get them a better job opportunity instead of manual jobs.

In this article from 3 years ago you can see where that is leading: even if all potential trainees wold find an employer, there would still be 15% open spots, and it's just getting worse every year. Or here, about 2013, where they describe how companies are trying to woo the trainees to their company with things like "business trips" to rock concerts around the world, company cars and good old hiring premiums - simply because there ain't enough for everybody. Several cities were especially short on trainable talents, especially in the eastern part of Germany, like Potsdam. permanently open spots that could not be covered with trainees reach at least as far back as 2008.

In other words, Merkel's open door immigration helped the country filling the holes in the manufacturing companies with fresh hirelings and trainees. Without them, I'm very sure the German economy wouldn't have been able to grow at it's current rate, as Germany would have been critically short on workers.

 

Not sure where market forces driving up wages is a bad thing.  Doubly not sure why you'd want to import an underclass in order to depress wages.

Unless you're the person paying the wage.  In which case it's a crisis.

Driving wages up isn't the problem. And guess what: they continue to go up fast even with immigrants filling up spots.

The problem is that there aren't nearly enough candidates to fill the spots, which results in net productivity losses for the companies, especially smaller ones who can't afford such fancy ways to woo the staff they desperately need.

Victorlink87 said: 

MrWayne said: 

I highly doubt that the lack of skilled worker in certain jobs played any role in the decisions she made back than, I also doubt that she wanted so many refugees to come.

 

"We don't have enough talent in the X-country" This sentence already tells you everything you have to know. Most of the time it is used when your own citizens don't wanna work in certain business because of bad working conditions and low wages.

Historically that is so true. However, we have another problem. We are about 2 generations into the whole "everyone must go to college" attitude of our educational system. What are we lacking? Tons of skilled workers in trades, like mechanics. 

As an encouragement, a good company will not likely fire you if your productivity is high and your engagement is meaninful and accurate.

Hence the immigrants, who are much less likely to have a college education and instead very likely skills in crafts and trades.

Last edited by Bofferbrauer2 - on 18 February 2019