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zorg1000 said:
colafitte said:

I repeat. I wasn't talking just about the sales (so i'm not saying X360 sold faster than XB in its first year, i never said that). I was talking about the perception of X360 when PS3 launched. XB brand was in a much better position during 2006 than during PS2/XB era. By 2005 XB Live, Halo 2, X360 launch were something more popular in USA than anything before for Microsoft. In fact, the exponential growth in popularity and sales for XB during 2004 to 2010 was spectacular, and it started around 2006 thanks to X360.

So again, XB brand has never been in a better upward trayectory than in those years (before or after). After a year X360 launched, the sky was the limit back then and I still consider it the golden years for XB (2004-2008).

People wanted new things for the next gen, and there was nothing more popular for the american audience during those years than playing online with XB Live with Halo 2 and then games like Gears of War and Halo 3 were king in USA. Halo 3 hype was way bigger than any hype the original Halo had for the original XB, it wasn't close. That affected a lot PS3 sales in USA in 2007 and for the rest of the gen. X360 had better exclusives and better services than PS3 at a better price during 2006-2007. It's not revisionist history, it's an explanation as to why XB went from selling almost 15M lifetime from 2001-2005 and lag behind way far to PS2 in US to sell almost the same in half the time and becoming the best selling console of the gen in US in the end. It was thanks to that good start. Without it, X360 would never had sold as much as it did (and i know Kinect helped a lot in 2010 afterwards, but without X360 success during 2006-2009, Kinect would had never been a success in the first place).

In the end, X360 convinced people to buy a Microsoft console unlike XB and XBO did against PS2 and PS4, and that's my point.

So it had a stronger start and better reception despite selling roughly the same in the same time frame?

It had a better reception and recognition during PS3 launch because X360 was in a better situation thanks to Gears of War, XB Live, Halo 3 hype and some other amazing exclusives that were coming in 2007 among other thing, yes. 

I'm not considering "start" just launch month or the first 6 months..."Start" to me is everything during the very first years of a console. X360 had a good 2006 and 2007 was even better. When people says PS3 had a rough start they don't mean only 2006, or 2007 even.

I really don't understand why you are so against of what i'm saying. Are you saying that the situation after 12 months were the same for XB and X360???. Did XB entered 2003 in the same situation as X360 entering 2007? Because that's my point. That X360 was entering in overdrive mode just when PS3 launched and XB was admiting defeat against PS2 by the start of 2003....

I really don't think anyone discuss that the "best" and more vanguardist years for XB brand were during 2004-2008. I really don't understand this argument, but if you don't agree with me, i accept it. 

 

We're derailing the thread by the way. My point was made and i guess i can't explain it any better.