The_Liquid_Laser said:
Intrinsic said:
Just so I am sure and not to jump to conclusions.
So you believe the NS is a 9th gen console? And as such the NS already has a 30M+ lead into the 9th gen?
If your answers to the above is yes and yes then my next question is.
If consoles are grouped into generations by a combination of factors like time/period of release, technologies that define the platform and software library...... how can something that is released in the 8th gen (in the time of the PS4/XB1), shares a library with other 8th gen platforms (when we say NS gets multiplat games we are talking of games that are also on the PS4/XB1) and uses technology similar to other 8th gen platforms (UE4, Unity....etc) be considered as a 9th gen platform?
Also, so if your theory still persists, when the "other" 9th gen consoles are released (PS5/XB4) what does that make the NS when it no longer recives ports of "multiplat games" because its hardware can't handle them? Further more' what do we now cal the NS2 which could be released in 2023/2024 that can then handle mutiplats from the other PS5/XB4? 10th gen?
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I do believe that Switch is 9th gen and it has a 30M+ lead. Yes.
But I would like to understand what you mean exactly by "technology"? What generation would you put the Wii into?
zorg1000 said:
I really dont get all the generation talk, it's this simple when PS4/XBO/Wii U were the main platforms, those were current gen. PS4/XBO are still the main platforms and Nintendo replaced Wii U with NSW, now those are current gen. In the next 2 years Sony/MS will replace PS4/XBO with PS5/XB4 and Nintendo will stick to NSW, when that happens PS5/XB4/NSW will be current gen.
I dont think anyone other than Wikipedia lists generations by numbers, it's usually just previous, current or next.
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I certainly DO list the generations by numbers. The term "current generation" is a misleading term that was started by the NPD (because they are a business). Some of the NPD's customers are game developers releasing games on PS4 and XB1. They don't want to piss off their customers by saying these games are coming out on a last gen console. So they just say everything is "current gen".
But the term is misleading. If you really want to understand the Genesis, for example, then it would be confusing to say that it was "current gen" with the NES. Even in 1989 it wasn't current gen with the NES. In 1989 the NES was a runaway sales juggernaut that could not be stopped. If you compare the Genesis to the NES it looks like a pathetic console that was cast aside, much like the Master System was. That type of comparison is an unfair analysis of Sega's most successful console.
On the other hand if you look at NES as generation 3 and Genesis as generation 4, then you see that Genesis was actually getting a 2-year head start on the SNES. This is a more accurate picture of the Genesis. Sega was still figuring the console business out, and these 2 years let them get a solid footing. It gave them time to market the console so that they had name recognition, "Genesis does what Nintendon't". It have them time to develop a killer app (e.g. Sonic). And most importantly, every game that they made in 89 and 90 was still available to compete with the SNES when it launched. So the SNES had to fight against another console that already had a sizable game library already in stores.
That is why it is appropriate to say that Switch is generation 9. It's success has not slowed down the PS4's success in the slightest. That's because there are underlying phenomena going on, like the people who adopt a console early are different that the late adopters. Switch is selling to people who are ready to move on from 3DS/Wii U/PS4/XB1. A few might want a technology upgrade, but most just want a new set of games to play. The Switch is just as much a legitimate next gen device as a PS5 or Scarlet, because what people want most is a new set of games to play. Whenever PS5 and Scarlet release, Switch will have a 2-4 year head start with it's game library. That is a huge head start. That is much stronger than what the Genesis had, because it's first two years were ok, but not exceptional compared to its later games. Switch, on the other hand, already has several killer apps and the list is growing, not to mention a huge game library. The longer Sony and Microsoft wait to release, the harder it will be for them to compete.
Switch is generation 9, because it's success has not hampered PS4 or XB1 in the slightest. It most definitely will hamper the success of PS5 and Scarlett.
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