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Shiken said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

"PS4/VITA combo with remote play"? Need both ps4/vita and strong wifi as well as charge sockets, can't play anywhere at anytime, sorry

"Nvidia Shield"? the same, you need wifi with TV and charge sockets, also can't play anywhere at anytime

Sega Nomad is a portable, not home console. No one call Sega Nomad a home console outside you

"Pokemon Stadium

Pokemon Snap

Pokken Tournament

Pokemon Lets Go (😉)"

And none of them are mainline title except Let Go but i already claimed Switch is a true portable first so Let Go (Pokemon Yellow Remake) is on handheld. When it get gen 8, it will be truly a handheld at it's core.

Hybrid Console is not really a Home console, no matter what you think, especially when you can play it on the go at any place and anytime with it out screen and battery


The Sega Nomad plays genesis games...console games.  It can also be connected to a TV and used as a Genesis, making it the first true hybrid console.

 

I can play my VITA remote play anywhere.  I played Persona 5 from my wifi hotspot on my phone without issue.

 

Zelda Breath of the Wild was released on the WiiU and Switch same day.  It was developed as a console game and plays the same on either the Switch on the WiiU.  It also runs smoother and at a higher resolution on the Switch, as the Switch is the next home console for Nintendo.  The Hybrid nature of the console is a feature that allows you to take those console experiences on the go.  It plays games designed for consoles that are festure complete such as DOOM, Wolfenstein 2, Warframe, Starkink, Valkeria Chronicles 4, NBA2k18, etc.

 

Historically speaking when a game has a portable counterpart, it is either not feature complete or has to run or a completely different engine.  In the case of the Switch however it just gets it's resolution cut back and maybe 30 fps if the game was initially 60 fps.  This kind of thing is similar to how the PS360 and X1/PS4 ports are handled.  Other than that, the same engine and assets are used.

 

So again, the Switch is a home console hybrid that allows you to play home console games on the go.  You can classify it as whatever you want, but when even Nintendo themselves are selling it as a Hybrid home console, there is little you can do to argue the fact.  When using logic alone, the discussion could go either way.  However given the fact that sales are compared to other consoles, it is developed for as a home console, and it is advertised as a home console that can be used on the go, it is classified as a home console.

And you can play Nomad anywhere also, not a home console.

"I can play my VITA remote play anywhere.  I played Persona 5 from my wifi hotspot on my phone without issue." You can, but not everyone can, not too many countries have strong wifi, that fact is undeniable

"Zelda Breath of the Wild was released on the WiiU and Switch same day" Yeah, Switch is also quite stronger than Wii U, like GBA also have SNES big games, doesn't make it become a home console

"Historically speaking when a game has a portable counterpart, it is either not feature complete or has to run or a completely different engine" Switch is 3 times stronger than Wii U. "a completely different engine" is mostly when the power gap is somehow too big or the portable is controls limited. Vita also run some ps2 games with different engine, so Vita is a home console?

In Japan and many countries in Asia, Switch is NOT a home console but portable console only. You can use it as a home console, but it won't change the view of people who live there