Switch passed 7m sold units in Japan

[DonFerrari]

Acevil said:

DonFerrari said:

Holy moses, I thought Wii or PS2 still had it. Congrats Switch.

Ya, the wording was recorded history, which includes both of those. However I wonder how SNES did. 

Well I did great, but market at that time was a smaller and slower as far as I can tell. So it is even possible that for the first year or two even PS4 was ahead of SNES (can't prove and won't bother on being wrong).

zorg1000 said:

DonFerrari said:

And on gaming ofering for the japanese Vita probably had a lot more than PS4 as well.

I'm not so sure about that, PS4 has Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Monster Hunter, Metal Gear Solid, Tekken, Gran Turismo, Resident Evil, God Eater, Dynasty Warriors, Hot Shots Golf, Street Fighter, Persona, Star Ocean, Tales of, Dragon Ball and soon to be Kingdom Hearts.

Basically all the big Japanese properties not by Nintendo/Level 5 and these were the franchises that pushed PS1/PS2/PSP to ~20 million sales in Japan.

Well you are probably right. If PS4 as a console outsold a handheld in Japan then it probably had more games to their taste.

PAOerfulone said:

Shiken said:

I have my reservations about Switch catching the DS/3DS as well, but it is still too early to tell.  We still have the next mainline Pokemon game and Animal Crossing, so I think after year 3 will be a good point to draw some more accurate predictions.

 

However 20-25 mil seems like a reasonable guess in my book.  It is likely we will see a Switch 2 being announced in year 4 and dropping in year 5, since eventually they will need to get closer to the PS5.  When that happens, sales will slow as people wait for the new device to drop.

The DS is out of reach in my view. It'll be a while before we see another system reach those numbers, maybe the Switch 2 can do it if Nintendo makes it fully backwards compatible and does exactly the same things they're doing with the Switch now, only double down on the marketing and support. But that won't be until waaay down the road, so I digress.

I do think it has a good chance to catch the 3DS. The 3DS is pretty much finished. It's not going to grow much more than where it is now. I'm thinking somewhere around 24.5 million will be its final tally. The Switch can reach that. As I stated in an earlier comment, it may be falling behind the 3DS in Japan right now, but the 3DS peaked very early. If fact, we just passed the 3DS' peak year, it's 2nd year (2012) whereas the Switch's peak years have yet to come. So, I think starting in 2020 is when it'll noticeably start to close the gap with the 3DS and eventually, once it gets close to the end of its cycle, it will overtake the 3DS.

And I highly doubt that we will get Switch 2 in 2022 (Switch's 5th year). Especially if the Switch continues to track well ahead of the 3DS' global sales like it has. The Switch was released in March 2017 and by that point, the 3DS had been on the market for about 6 years. So anything shorter than 6 years for the Switch would be cutting its legs off from underneath and, in my opinion, a big mistake on Nintendo's part.

As far as the PS5 and its potential effect on Switch sales are concerned, I side with Kerotan in that I don't see how one could effect the other. By the time the PS5 comes out, more than likely in late 2020, Nintendo will have made the adjustment, or start doing so by that point, of marketing and selling the Switch as a handheld device that can be played like a console. Right now, they are marketing the Switch primarily as a console you can take on the go like a portable and its price point of $300 has a lot to do with that, I feel. By that point, it will be at either $250, or even $200 if we get a revision of sorts that helps bring it down to that price. From that point onwards, they'll market the Switch as a handheld capable of HD quality games you can play on your TV. All the while, they'll be drawing in more and more of their handheld/portable audience who were waiting for the Switch to get to that handheld price range for them to make the purchase. Plus, there's the Switch Pro/X/i, whichever you prefer, that will fill the niche for those who want stronger, upgraded hardware.

Meanwhile, the PS5 will be launching at probably $400; At most, $500. And at those launch prices, the vast majority of people who will by the system are the early adapters and/or diehard, loyal PlayStation fans who are eager to get the newest system while the mainstream audience will wait for a price cut to a more affordable range and for its library to build and grow over time. Sony and Nintendo will be going for totally different audiences here and one company's performance and success will have little to no effect on the other's. 

If Switch by 2020 is still 250 Nintendo will be ripping off customers and making a pretty dolar on it. 200 USD is more likely.

And about the point of kerotan and Switch 2 making less success because it won't be a novelty like Switch... PS2 sold much more than PS1 being just an improvement over the previous without nothing really changing dramatically.

So if Switch 2 can improve on key areas it can sell more than Switch 1 (although we have seem that the systems Nintendo made as just evolution of the previous didn't do that well compared to the predecessor NES->SNES, GB->GBA, DS->3DS, Wii->WiiU).

Kerotan said:

Miyamotoo said:

It doesn't works like that, if you claiming something than you provide something to backup your claims, especially when we comparing sales numbers and no one provided sales number or any proof that X360 did sold better.

Again, I at least gave some official numbers and from Americas number is to easy to make statement that US are around 90% sales of Americas, on other hand you didnt provide even America's number for X360 not to mention US.

So in your case when you are burdened to prove you provide numbers not relevant to the case at all. Ok Gotcha. 

And he won't own that he was wrong, and based his conclusion on wrong numbers.

And considering how long he have been on this site, to miss out all the threads and news made about X360 passing Wii at the end of the gen.

Better to brag that he at least got some numbers. Next time we discuss with he, maybe he will bring numbers from UK, and use some generic "USA sells like 3 times as much as UK, so this I multiply the sales on UK and get USA".