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Pemalite said:

Bofferbrauer2 said:

I think most people didn't actually watch that presentation or don't fully understand the Radeon VII.

The Radeon VII isn't just a Vega in 7nm, as it improves far more than just the clock speed. The clock speed increases by 10-15% while framerates increase almost throughout by 20-35%, and that's despite lacking 4CU. That brings the card to about RTX 2080 level in terms of FPS.

What is there to Understand?
It's the same old Vega... But at 7nm with much higher clockspeeds and more bandwidth.

Bofferbrauer2 said:

I can understand that from a pure gamer standpoint the GPU is disappointing, but for those Navi will come later down the line. But for those who use their GPU not just to play, but also for work, this is a very good offering.

That is the key word... "Gamer". - AMD is marketing this GPU towards the gamer. Hence the gaming benchmarks.
Thus they have opened themselves up for comparisons and criticism.

Seriously Perm?

If it was just a die Shrink plus increased clock speeds and more bandwith, then it wouldn't have outperformed the old Vega 64 by such a large margin. Radeon VII has some architectural improvements, because the numbers don't add up otherwise. It's certainly not the Bandwith, as many of these games listed weren't limited in that domain to begin with.

And you got the wrong keyword. The keyword is also, as like I said it's for someone who plays games, but who uses his GPU also for other things, like work for instance. It is what the Titan series was on NVidia's side of things... until the RTX Titan that is, which got turned into a pure gaming GPU without any productivity extras while keeping the huge pricetag.