Global Hardware 15 December 2018

[DonFerrari]

OTBWY said:

DonFerrari said:

Not this.

Nintendo saw they wouldn't be able to directly compete with Sony during PS1 and 2, then they started going for a market of their own since Wii and at the same time MS that started well in Xbox grow and made it even harder.

The flip flop you are putting is more to do with your interpretation to try and label others as Nintendo haters.

What market is that Don? Movies? Books? Or ... Video Games? In what market is the Switch killing it?

So all books are direct competitors with same public? All videos? All Cars? Smartphones and Consoles?

drinkandswim said:

DonFerrari said:

Not this.

Nintendo saw they wouldn't be able to directly compete with Sony during PS1 and 2, then they started going for a market of their own since Wii and at the same time MS that started well in Xbox grow and made it even harder.

The flip flop you are putting is more to do with your interpretation to try and label others as Nintendo haters.

Ok thank you. All your posts on Switch making PS4 and X1 market shrinking seemed to indicate otherwise.

And of course there is some impact, indirect competitors and substitute products impact the market you are analyzing.

Also are you now more ready to accept that the YOY drop PS4 and X1 will get in 2019 and 2020 have more to do with their age and saturation than the success of Switch? (sure if Switch didn't exist the drop could be smaller, but not much).

Well age and saturation definitely has an impact. So will people expecting next gen in 2020. I know I am holding off for that. I dont expect a huge drop for PS4 or Xbox One if they drop their prices. With a price drop maybe 10-15% drop. Xbox could see a bigger drop. I still think PS4 has a strong place in the Market due to their amazing library of games. 

Well you are on the minority as usually the people who buy late on the gen aren't the same that buy on the start, usually due to cost. You can get X1 or PS4 by 199 on promotions and have a big library with a lot of good games costing 5-10 instead of 400+ consoles with few games and all costing 60.