RolStoppable said:
The one thing that matters is that Switch functions like a home console, because it's not missing any features that people expect based on previous Nintendo home consoles. Since you are the point of origin of this discussion, I'll look over your justification. I am adding numbers to your post for better reference what I am replying to.
1. A common fallacy is to use Switch's portability as decisive factor to call it a handheld console, but a hybrid requires portability just as much as a standard handheld console, so portability in and of itself is not enough to classify a console. Someone has already said that PSP and PSV are hybrids as well, but that falls flat on its face because PSP and PSV games remain single-player games when connected to a TV, unlike on Switch where games can be played by up to eight people simultaneously. What makes Switch a hybrid is that it does both what a home console and what a handheld do. 2. If processing power were a decisive factor, the Wii wouldn't be a home console anymore. As such, your statement is irrelevant to the question at hand. 3. If AAA third party games were a decisive factor, the Wii wouldn't be a home console anymore. As such, your statement is irrelevant to the question at hand. 4. Switch is sold for $300 because it combines the functionality of two devices into one without making any significant compromises. As such, $300 isn't remotely close to greedy because a separate home console and handheld console amounted to $400+ in the preceding two generations. Switch games are sold for $60 because they are home console games. 5. This is a surprisingly accurate statement coming off four headscratchers in a row. It looks like you already realized at that point that you are flirting with a moderation, so you said something that's basically the opposite of your otherwise condescending and belittling tone.
6. This dichotomy of direct/indirect competition has taken on a life on its own. It's much more accurate to call the market situation symmetrical/asymmetrical competition, because that refers to competition that is either based on the same set of values on offer or on different sets of values. PS4 and Switch are different, but both compete for the customer who is looking for console games, so they are in direct competition for the same dollars. XB1 is in symmetrical competition with the PS4 while Switch is in asymmetrical competition with the PS4. Indirect competition would be something like console vs. smartphone games. Symmetrical competition results in more of a zero sum game whereas asymmetrical competition is additive, provided any given customer has the money for more than one console. 7. zorg1000 already touched on how flawed that statement is. The Switch sales trend strongly suggests that customers take their pick whether they use Switch as home console, handheld console or even both, therefore making the console a perfectly viable hybrid instead of merely a handheld console that is connected to a TV like you try to insinuate. 8. Ah yes, the classic "Nintendo is for kids" line. Looks like point 5 has become irrelevant by this point and is indeed not a point that interconnects with the rest of your post, but is positioned as a shield of sorts.
9. Sounds like you are trying to comfort yourself because Switch is selling so well. Unsurprisingly, your description of gamer progression is inaccurate because it has three steps and not just two. Firstly, a lot of people do start out with Nintendo. Secondly, a lot of the same people turn their backs on Nintendo when they become teenagers and "grow up". Thirdly, a lot of the people who turned their backs on Nintendo eventually come back when they've truly grown up and reached adulthood, recognizing that age rating on games has nothing to do with actual maturity. 10. That's a fitting analogy to close out your post. Fitting, because it should remove the last doubts anyone could have had about your mindset. Point 5 stands out as something that doesn't fit in with the rest of the post. Lastly, I wouldn't say the Switch is a duck. It's more like a raccoon with a P-Wing. |
1- Ok multiplayer handheld hibrid console.
2- Wii was also in another market than ps3 and Xbox. It was a casual gamer device that sold well for the price of half the others and the introduction of a new way to game, the controls.
3-I didn´t speak about AAA games. I said that the multiplats for switch are greatly downgraded so the mobile chip can run them.
4-Switch is very cheap, and its software much cheaper to make than 4k AAA games. Nintendo is Greeeeedy.
5- all are acurate
6- call the name you like, Switch didn´t slow ps4 sales, so it didn´t take many sony´s dollars, and if it did it wasn´t much at all.
7- Nintendo is rolling on the floor laughing because they are selling the cheap handheld with TV conectivity for 300 and every fan is buying it. You can call it an hibrid, I would say then a very Underpowered hibrid console then. And thats the same as a mobile console with TV conection.
8- Take out the remakes of Spiro or Crash. How many quality games for kids do you have on PS4 or Xbox? now on Switch, the remasters Zelda and Kart, the new Mario, Splatoon, Arms, SM party and so on. All with the caracters you can buy at McDonalds when you are a kid. Not that an Adult can´t play, there are many games, but its more kid oriented and it shows on Christmas sales.
9- some old nostalgic adults go back to Nintendo. Im one in a way, I have a SNES mini. Awesome machine. Not like the shitty Playstation Greedy Classic that I don´t plan to buy. For modern games PS4 pro is my choise, Love Naughty Dog, Quantic Dreams, Santa Monica for their quality SP games.
10- I corrected myself, not a duck, people wrote that ducks fly well, Switch is a chicken and PS4 pro and Xbox one X are eagles or falcons. ;)
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Last edited by PwerlvlAmy - on 09 January 2019
