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couchmonkey on 08 January 2019
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SKMBlake said:
FloatingWaffles said:

I'm curious about this part. Those games (Super Mario 3D Land and Super Mario 3D World) were literally them trying something new with combining elements of both 2D Mario and 3D Mario, something which hadn't been done before, but yet you claim it was them reverting? Is that not what you're asking for with this thread, for them to try new stuff and take more risks? Or are we back to "those aren't real 3D Mario games" again....

Also, generic? Not only is that ignoring a lot of the creativity it had but it's also not true.

It's only 4 points behind Odyssey.....

Well it was basically a 2D Mario game in a 3D environment, which isn't what people expect from a 3D Mario title.

And yeah, only 4 points behind Odyssey, but also Galaxy and Galaxy 2, which all 3 scored 97, around other games considered greatest games ever made. It may sound silly but if Nintendo can't reach the sky with their biggest franchises (Mario and Zelda), it's not a good sign.

I see 3D Land and 3D World as an attempt to bring the 25 million sales of the new smb series to the 3D Mario games, so while it was different from what Nintendo did before, business-wise it might have seemed low risk.  I can't say too much about World, butIthink Land and New SMB2 started to feel like almost one game, it was ...not great, and generic would be the rigt word.  3D World looked better., I only played world 1.  On that note, I stromgly feel it is time for  a 2D Mario to break the mold of the New SMB games.

I would rather see new IP than more Mario spinoffs, personally, I tend to think back to NES and SNES where wewere spoiled with like 10 new IP each gen.