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KingofTrolls said:
colafitte said: how PS4 is going to sell 2-3M less than in 2017??. Where in the world is selling way less than last year then?

The answer is simple. It will be determined after Sony's report. We got more and more warnings that the end of the year might turn the table.

Until that, all the thrashtalk is litlle child blablabla.

Yeah, we need to wait and see indeed.

Miyamotoo said:

 

colafitte said:
I have the feeling PS4 is going to be undertracked this year worlwide (have this ever happened to a Playstation before???? ), because if in USA, JP and UK PS4 is similar to last year numbers, how PS4 is going to sell 2-3m less in the rest of the world?

PS4 in US and Japan is down YoY.

I did not said PS4 was up on these regions, i said that combining those regions PS4 is going to be similar, because less than 5% difference i consider it to be flat. PS4 is going to be  around 50k less in JP than last year and i consider that techical flat (i will consider the same if it was 50k more), in US PS4 is going to be just  a few 100k shy of last year and in UK is already up YOY, so yeah, i stand for what i said. The difference for those markets between 2017 and 2018 is going to be just a few 100k's of difference, so if PS4 is going to sell 2 or 3M less than in 2017, it need to be in the rest of the world.....but where?

zorg1000 said:
colafitte said:
So, if this news is correct and PS4 is up YOY in UK, I expect EU to be flat or YOY up too. So...., i will ask again, if PS4 is flat in US, JP and EU...., how PS4 is going to sell 2-3M less than in 2017??. Where in the world is selling way less than last year then?

As a reminder, PS4 sold 20'2M sold to consumers in 2017 according to Sony.

Take a look at Sony official sell through numbers.

Jan 1, 2017-53.4 million

June 11, 2017-60.4 million

That's 23 weeks so ~304k/week.

 

Dec 31, 2017-73.6 million

July 22, 2018-81.2 million

That's 29 weeks so ~262k/week.

 

If we take those weekly averages and meet on the middle at 26 weeks, that is

Half 1 2017-7.9 million

Half 1 2018-6.8 million

 

At the end of June PS4 was comfortably up in US & Japan according to NPD & Media Create but Sony's official sell through numbers put it down by over 1 million globally.

Yeah, good point. But I still think PS4 is going to be very similar of what it did in the second half of the year last year worldwide thanks to games like Spider-Man, RDR 2 and COD BOPS IIII.

I'm not expecting PS4 to sell 20M this year, i'm not that crazy, but i firmly believe is going to be closer to 19M than most people think.

Last edited by colafitte - on 02 January 2019