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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Vodacixi said:

I mean... if you want to mention mid tier games too like Star Fox Adventure, Wave Race, Mario Party 4 and Resident Evil 0, let's add to the Switch: Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Splatoon 2, ARMS, Mario x Rabbids and Fire Emblem Warriors... heck, if you count Super Monkey Ball and Wave Race for the Gamecube, let's put FAST RMX and Snipperclips on the Switch list too xD

As for third party releases... The Simpsons Road Gage? Gauntlet Dark Legacy? Spiderman? Really? For the love of God, those game were mediocre at best. Road Gage is absolute trash. As for the Switch... DOOM, Skyrim, Rocket League, Super Bomberman R, Disgea 5, LEGO City Undercover, Sonic Mania, Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2... plus all the indies in the world, plus the sports games.

All that being said... I may have gone to far saying "any console". I agree that Gamecube and N64 had a great first year. But at least you'll agree that those happened 18 to 23 years ago. How good PS2, Xbox, PS3, Xbox 360, Wii U, PS4 and Xbox One were on their first year? Not even close to what those consoles and the Wii had. The Switch absolutely blow away any recent console's first year.

First of all, this comment sounds really passive aggressive. It also completely misinterprets the point. The point, as I said at the end, is that Nintendo's home consoles have had pretty strong first years for a long time now - and in that respect the Switch isn't out of the norm. The reason that people are acting like Switch's first year is out of this world mostly has to do with the fact that A ) Most forum users were either not "gamers" when the Wii/Gamecube/N64 launched or B ) Most forum users did not have the expendable income or market knowledge to be interested in or buy any games they wanted when these systems released. All I'm simply saying is that Switch's first year is not that out of the norm, all things considered it's pretty comparable to the N64, Gamecube, and Wii (though N64's lineup isn't the greatest, but it had a very small library overall) - and you don't even disagree with that, yet you're mocking my reply. 

Second, you're not acknowledging market differences. Sports games in the 6th generation were extraordinarily important releases, they were often some of the highest rated games on their respective platforms. Some sports franchises might sell more now, but that's mostly because of the increase in software purchases overall. Sports games now do not really command the same kind of respect they once did, so I have no idea why you're acting like they're just the same thing. A lot of the games I listed are not even out on Switch or do not permeate the market in the same way they once did. The same could be applied to you mocking Super Monkey Ball or Wave Race and comparing them to Fast RMX and Snipperclips. Both were bigger deals for their individual consoles in their individual generations than two indie games, but because software sales have grown so much and because those consoles did not sell well you can now look back and make that faulty comparison. Also, you don't seem to understand the reason I listed these games was not to make the Switch's library look worse - I quite literally was listing every exclusive that was known for being a well made quality title, I wasn't trying to "one up" Switch. A lot of the third party Gamecube games I listed were also big deals at the time, so just making fun of them because what you believe to be the quality now is nonsense.

You also don't seem to get that I made the list of current, at the time new releases. Stuff like Fast RMX, Lego City Undercover, Mario Kart 8 and DOOM are not new releases, although you're more than welcome to use them since they don't negate my point. And if you don't think Resident Evil 0 was a big deal at the time then I don't know what to say ...

Everything you've replied with is insinuating that Switch is more comparable to N64/Gamecube/Wii, which is my EXACT point! You're right that recent consoles have had bad first years - but let's put 2+2 together. N64 had a good first year, Gamecube had a good first year, Wii had a good first year, Wii U didn't, Switch did. What is the common trend? That - compared to other competitors - Nintendo home consoles have good first years. Wii U didn't because it was rushed and it was the Wii U, the amount of worthwhile games could fit on three hands at most. So yes, compared to other Nintendo home consoles, the Switch's first year is not so astronomically better that it isn't in the same ballpark. It absolutely is. But compared to most Playstation and Xbox launches - it's by far better. 

First of all... I'm not being passive agressive. I'm just saying that some of the games you listed are either not good at all or have limited importance for the matter we're discussing. If we count digital only games, the Switch have a crap ton more games than the Gamecube on its first year. But I'm not gonna mention all the 1-2 dollar games we can find on the eShop. Just as you shouldn't mention things like Spiderman or Road Gage just because they belong to popular franchises.

Second, I think it's fantastic you're in your early 30s (or maybe more) and you know so much about videogames history. But don't make a fool out of me (and now I'm actually being passive agressive BTW): sports games were sports games. There were some critically acclaimed sports games before and there are some now (though due to microtransactions it got worse from 2016 to now). Sports games were important then and are important now. They sold then and they sell now. Gamers on Europe buy millions of FIFA then and they do it now. Don't act like those games were considered some kind of must have games for the system where they were sold for other than sports fans. It just wasn't that way. I was there. I read my videogame magazines back then. You're just being a liar right here.

Thrid, Gauntlet Dark Legacy launched first on the Playstation 2 (a year earlier to be exact). Medal of Honor launched first on the PS2, as did some other titles on your list. If DOOM doesn't quite fit for you, those shouldn't either.

Fourth, If you think Road Gage was a big deal... think twice Mr. I Was There, I Saw It All. The game was garbage. Luckly for us, Hit and Run happened.

I have nothing more to say to you. Have a nice day/night