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Miyamotoo said:

1. First point was about games, and fact that you could play 99% of games with built in controls. Its not point about identity, its point about offering different type of revisions and price points of same platform.

2. Its not issue at all, we literally talking about few games (4-5 games from over 1.000 games) that cant be used in handheld mode. DSi and 3DS revisions also have games that couldnt be played on every DSi or 3DS revision.

3. What? I very clear said what would be point of that model, again, "this would be just one low price point revision and one offer of "Switch family" for people who want cheap device that they would play only in handheld mode". And no, not every person would choose more price "real Switch" instead low price point only handheld Switch.

 

I mean you overcomplicate things too much, point would be to offer different type of revisions and price points, you would still have standard Switch model on market in any case, so Switch like platform will not loose anything it will have broader appealing with different type of revisions and price points. You talking about originality, but you forgetting that Nintendo with 2DS ditch 3D and clamshell Dual Screen design in order to have low price offer of 3DS family, they will most likely do something similar with 3DS also.

3DS is dying and it will be dead next year, Nintendo will want low price point Switch next year or year after latest, and they cant have soon enough Switch for $150-200 with just normal revisions and costs save buy time. They will want broad apealing on market, so you will have low price point Switch, normal version and more expansive, similar like 3DS family.

No, low price point Switch with built in controls focused on handheld play is great idea, it would effectively be replacement for price point on market that 3DS currently covers. Imagine something like this in one point:

-Switch Mini/Pocket (smaller form factor, smaller screen, built in controls, without dock...) - $150

-Switch TV (something similar like Vita TV, just for home console use, comes with Switch Pro controler but supports Joy Cons) - $150

-New Switch (revision of current Switch and it will replace current Switch on market similar like New 3DS replaced OG 3DS) - around $250

-Switch Pro (improved Switch in some way) - $300

So we basically talking about Switch family, so offer of different type of revisions and price points of same platform, 99% games would run in any mode and thats more important.

 

Switch will probably be much bigger than just single device with one concept, Switch will most likely be platform with different type of revisions and price points, something similar to 3DS with difference that Switch like hybrid has much more potential for different type of revisions than 3DS.

1. Doesn't matter. The Joy-Con are THE controllers for the Switch. Taking them away is like taking the Wii Remote away from the Wii. 

2. The fact that several games like it exist in less than 2 years already is the problem. It doesn't matter if most of the Switch library can play the traditional games, you're still not getting full compatibility

3. Then just wait out a price cut, or you know, sell a Switch separately. Nintendo doesn't need to get the Switch cheaper right away, not when its selling so well at its current price at the moment. 

Overcomplicating things is exactly the mistake Nintendo wants to avoid with the Switch. It should be as simple and straight forward as possible. The 2DS only happened because 3D had health risks for kids under 7. Plus, 3D was mandated to be optional by Nintendo anyway, so it wasn't a big loss. Loosing the Joy-Con is a bigger deal here because you're taking away essentially the unique draw of the Switch that everyone likes. 

3DS may be done getting new software by 2019, but Nintendo still wants to keep it around for at least another 2 years at retail as a budget option. By that point, the Switch would already be cheap enough to adopt in one-per-person rates. 

I just don't see what you people are trying to accomplish here. Why would Nintendo undermine the gimmick of their console that so many people like, just to artificially squeeze sales out of a console that's already breaking records? It just seems overly cynical and uneccessary of a business decision. And worse, IMO, it shows that Nintendo doesn't have confidence in its hardware features if they have to gut them to make them attractive. People aren't buying the Switch because its a Nintendo handheld, they're buying it because it's something much better and more original than that. So there's no reason for Nintendo to take away what people like about it, just to pander to some kiddos. Kids are already gravitating to the Switch, as are casual gamers. 

This is just a case where out-of-touch internet forum dwellers think they know better than a WW consumer electronics company who has access to real sales data, real market research, and real play habits to make decisions regarding their product.