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Intrinsic said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

All of the above?  Consoles in the same generation are released fairly close to one another.  On the other hand when a console goes 4-7 years and then releases a successor, you have a next generation console.  Next generation consoles play games that the previous generation could not.  

Switch is a next generation console in every sense.  It was NOT released anywhere near the PS4, XB1 or Vita.  The Wii U and 3DS WERE released near the PS4, XB1 and Vita.  They are all in the same generation, but Switch is not.  Switch is the successor to both the Wii U and 3DS releasing 4.5 and 6 years later respectively.  This is the normal time frame for releasing a next gen console.  And also Switch plays new games that the Wii U or 3DS could not: Mario Odyssey, Ulitmate Smash, Pokemon Let's Go, etc... these games are only available on Switch.

Now also think about it this way.  What if Sony released a Vita 2 this year?  What generation would it be?  Clearly it would be competing with Switch since they are both handheld devices.  If a Vita 2 launched this year, then what generation would it be?

If its all of the above then I fear you are very wrong.

By definition of generations

Video game generations are defined by the dominant game console in their marketplace. Anytime there is a significant shift in the marketplace leader to a new hardware model' that signals the start of a new generation.

The WiiU was the start of a new generation because nintendo was the market leader of the previous one. The PS4 is the market leader in this current generation and the hardware nintendo has brought forward will in no way drive game design technology forward because its based on on 5 yr old tech.  

Secondly you have to look at the software, the NS shares its game library with 8th gen platforms. And chances are when those platforms release 9th gen hardware NS will probably not et a single game from them. Until the NS2 that is. But lets see.. the NS can play games like oblivion and doom and fortnite. All games that arent available on the WiiU. S what happens when it cant play the iterations of those games on other "9th gen" hardware when they come? Does that make them 10th gen hardware instead?

If a Vita 2 launched this year and was getting the same games that the Switch and PS4/XB1 are getting then its an 8th gen machine too. 

But if you want to really be anal abut all this? This is how its really supposed to look like.


- NS is nintendo's first generation hybrid console or their 7th generation home console or their 5th generation handheld console. Depending on how yu see the switch.

- PS4 is sony's 4th generation console and XB1 is microsofts 3rd gen console.

But if you are gonna group them' then the only sensible thing to do is group them by what they all share in common (which is and always is games) and not something as arbitrary as when its released. Cause that were the case we really shuld be in the 12th gen by if you look at what happened with the atari 2600. Its successor was released around 4yrs after it but didnt catch on so they just grouped it into the same generation. Kinda what happened with the WiiU and Switch.......

Sorry to break it t you, but nintendo released two consoles in the 8th gen. Their 9th gen console will show up sometime in 2023 or so.

Uhm, let's just forget most of this discussion, and focus on your concept of generations and game library.  You know that the PS4 runs lots of generation 7 games like GTA5 and the Last of Us right?  That doesn't make it generation 7.  It also has plenty of games unique to it like God of War 4 and Spider-Man and Horizon Zero Dawn.  That is what makes it a different generation.  Some of the games have to be unique, but not all.