Global Hardware 1 December 2018

[DonFerrari]

Intrinsic said:

Panicradio said:

Reportedly, in 2013 Sony had a $45 profit on each console sold when the PS4 was $399, yet alone comparing to manufacturing costs. That should be some reliable data to be able to find Sony's profit today. 

Source: https://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1320199&image_number=1

I am from Germany, I don't think we've had any price tag just in the near of €199 since 2013. At least to me, Sony is still selling the PS4 at a above average price tag here, between €279 (not for the PRO, though) and €449 for bundles. The PRO, unless discounted, is still being sold between €349 and €399. And that's €.

Sony is probably making the best money right now.

 

EDIT and sort of correction of myself: Right now the two biggest retailers in Germany are selling the standalone 500GB Slim at €199, the standalone 1TB PRO (no bundle) at €299. But that's got to be the very first time I have ever seen it that low. 

From my most recent BOM assessment

	2013 PS4	TODAYs PS4
HDD	$23	$16
BRDrive	$25	$20
RAM	$62	$28
APU	$121	$55
Other	$126	$75 - $100
TOTAL	$357	$194 - $219

So yh, I guess its safe t assume sony is making alot of money on each unit right now.

It should be noted that at this point even the use of 7nm fabrication won't result in much of a drop. Thats because there are a number f things that just can't really et any lower. So 7nm will only bring about a further $40 or so price reduction (APU, Ram and Other will be the only things that et cheaper) which means the lowest price we may see of the PS4 is around $169 at some pint in the future. 

 

Mnementh said:

DonFerrari said:

A lot of good consoles have picked on their second full year.

What do you mean picked on? Switch is selling better than in it's first year, this much is clear. So yeah, Switch picks up momentum. But you do not expect this was the peak year for Switch? 2019 will be bigger for sure and 2020 probably the peak year. Will people compare then in 2021 to PS5 and say: Switch in it's fifth year sells better than the new console with the launch push? It's just ridiculous. Older consoles near peak are expected to sell better than new ones.

Peaked. No idea why it changed to picked =p

And several good consoles have peaked on second or third full year, actually peaking on the 4th or 5th are rare occasions.