November NPD 2018 Thread

[flashfire926]

DonFerrari said:

flashfire926 said:

What do you mean, "it lost wind". Its sold about the same for each of the last five years. 

I didnt jump any gun. You said XBO dropped when compared to 360, but what actually happened that the 360 shot up and XBO remained flat, which is true.

It lost because of that horrible reveal that still leaves a bad place in peoples mouth to this day, the primary reason why the XBO isnt doing as well as its competitors:

- focus on TV TV TV  and other media instead of games

-horrible DRM plans, trying to make it always online, trying to eliminate used games

-Kinect forced into every XBO, so they were basically selling a weaker system for a larger price

Theres not much else to it. Next gen will be a fresh new start for Xbox, where it can finally escape the "xbox one" name.

Do you know what is a sales curve for consoles and that for MS and Sony it is something that grow on the first 3 or 4 years (each year selling more than the previous) to X1 not doing that while X360 did and PS4 as well? That made X1 lose the lead against X360 continuously and also PS4 to open the lead more and more (even in percentage)

Please explain to me how all those bad things didn't prevent a very good release and start but then held the console 3 to 5 years later.

X1 done good in USA, and bad WW it's simple as that and would happen even if they didn't make the mistakes, and that is because Sony dominates WW. And have dominated even with the blunders on PS3. Look at sales aligned without USA for last gen and you'll see (and that was the gen X360 done most right and PS3 most wrong).

Next gen PS5 will still dominate X2 unless something unexpected happens. You can expect another 50M Xbox and 120 Playstation if Sony doesn't make gigantic mistakes.

The traditional sales curve will not be a thing anymore in console lifecycles, now that mid-gen refreshes are a thing, which keeps console sales going for an extended period of time. 

X1 sold a lot out the gate because xbox had a big established fan-base by then, something you couldnt say about the 360 launch. 

What does the bolded even mean? As I said, Xbox One sold roughly the same, each year from 2014-2018. Its just that in 360's 5th year, that aligns with XBO's 2018, the kinect launched which boosted X360 a lot for 2010-2012. Its doing rougly the same right as it was doing in 2014. Its held back the same amount as it was in 2014, not less, not more.

You're repeating the same disproved points over and over again now.