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colafitte said:
DonFerrari said:

That is because usually NPD leakers on ERA are divas. It isn't the first time we have this, aquamarine and others made similar behaviours. Even "prohibiting" numbers to be posted on VGC. Like how someone that breaks the NDA they signed have any high ground to complain on others leaking to other places?

He has the right to not like what was said about him here, but he had no right to insult every member of this forum for something EVERY GAMING FORUM can be accused of. It was totally inapropiate, and if i dare to say, in a very coward manner, using a way more popular forum to put people against this forum. He probably doesn't like to fight their numbers against VGC because it goes against his interests for his twiter account popularity, and he knows his numbers are more close to the official numbers, so he is more reliable to get real numbers (most people here agree on that), but VGC never lied about its numbers. VGC numbers are not official, they're just the work of using current info to bring a closer aproximation of what the actual numbers of gaming sales are. VGC makes continually adjustments to get close to official data every time now and then. No one here says that you have to trust VGC numbers against any other media or info available for gaming selling numbers.

And VGC forums, and its members have way more and better discussions about sales that what i see in other sites. VGC doesn't deserve such behavior from NPD leakers or other gaming forum members. Mat Piscatella and Benji are very valuable posters in Resetera, but they not only give numbers, they give opinions too. So, the moment they start doing that, people will react always. Compared to ZhugeEX, he express his opinions in forums at a minimum giving mostly only facts and numbers, so almost nobody discuss anything he says. That's how gaming forum works. They're going to be always people that are against what you said or think, and if they're not...., well, it doesn't talk very well about diverstiy of opinions and free speech then.

Very well said. Agree completely.

Of all the number posters my all time favorite and still my favorite has been ZhugeEX. Thats how you do it. He says what he has to say and keeps it to the facts of it. No one has ever argued with him. These other numbers leakers are really just entitled brats if you ask me. And thrive in communities like Gaf and Era because those communities have a hive mentality. Its almost like talking to a forum of one. And I don't think thats healthy. And mind you.... I am a member of Era. Never posted n there though. 

Benji was never on my radar until now and for the wrong reasons..... if you don't want what you say to be challenged? Then keep your mouth shut.

And this is why I like VGC...... its a sesspool of very opinionated people and while we get extremes of it atimes thats pretty normal. The mods keep things civil but all opinions no matter how ridiculous are allowed to be expressed here. Anyone can be called out. No exceptions. 

 

DonFerrari said:
I'm laughing with the gloom and doom for PS4 and X1, how much doom reaching 100M is?
Also 25M sales for Switch in 2019 is something very hard to achieve.
Plus December will be funny to see when we have predictions of Switch under 1.4 and over 2M... one of those can be very wrong.

This year the switch is going to do around 16M at best. Which is great but a far cry from then going on to do 25M in sales the next year. Its currently at 11M s its even generous saying it will sell 5M consoles in the last 5 weeks of 2018. I dont know how some in the ninty camp see these things or if they are mixing up shipped and sold numbers.. but whatever it is its just unrealistic.  

Can they do 18M or even 19M in sales next year? Absolutely and more in line with what I would expect... but 20M and up is very unrealistic to me. I am very very very curious to know what people feel the sales drivers are going to be to make it go from a 15M -16M year to a 20M - 25M year though.