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Kai_Mao said:
noname2200 said:

???

I mean, Cloud I'll grant you. I'll even agree that the "rules" about who is and isn't in basically boil down to "what does Sakurai think?" But while Snake was more associated with Sony, I'll need you to explain this statement to me.

Snake is an interesting one. The reason Snake got in was because Sakurai did his friend, and Metal Gear creator, Hideo Kojima, a favor because Kojima's son wanted one of his father's characters to be in Melee, but the project was well into development that Sakurai could not get Snake in. Thus, it did not really matter how much of a legacy Snake had prior to his inclusion in Smash Bros. Brawl. Of course, you could say its debatable as Twin Snakes was on the GameCube, but it has to be noted that Sakurai and Kojima are really good friends and it likely took precedent when it came to Snake's inclusion.

That's my understanding as well. I guess I'm just a bit confused about how many people are forgetting how big Metal Gear was on the NES: not only was it the only version available in the Americas and much of Europe, but it's legacy lives on in memes to this day ("I feel asleep!"). That game is why so many folks were anticipating Metal Gear Solid in the first place. Shoot, the NES game was big enough that it lead to an NES-exclusive sequel. There's also the Game Boy Color game, which was...surprisingly good?