Errorist76 said:
KiigelHeart said:
They should have just said "Hey we wanted to give a different, fictional twist to WW2 for everyone to enjoy. Try it out it's really good!" But no.. |
Even if they had done that, think it would’ve changed a thing? I don’t. sJWHiStOrYmUrDeRiNgAsShOlEs !!1!11
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Get off the high horse. There has been a ton of alternate takes on WW2. PS had an exclusive franchise based on it, Resistance. Did people go nuts about that? Nope. You know why? Because they said it was an alternate history. The problem here rests solely on EA and DICE for empty virtue signalling, and being like most virtue signalers, read: not being able to take any type of alternate view or criticism.
A woman on the front lines wasn't even the biggest reason for the backlash. For one, the tone seemed completely off for a BF game, which the cricket bat wielding, disabled woman being part of that. You'll notice following trailers take a much more serious/realistic tone. And two, which is the largest part of this, EA/DICE handled the criticism incredibly poorly. They could have simply said that they were pursuing an alternate history for WWII and most people would have been fine with it. Some would still not like the direction of the franchise and choose not to purchase the game, but for the most part the backlash would have died down. Nope, instead they couldn't handle the criticism, so called their fans uneducated (this would actually describe EA/DICE if this is the way they think history went) and said not to buy it if they don't like it. Well, those "uneducated" masses did just that.
konnichiwa said:
Jaxyfoo said:
I am torn on this debate, because I generally back equality and progression. However this whole incident is part of some crazy rewriting of history in a way which is Absolutely wrong full stop. Women fought in every capacity going further back, and in some countries did indeed have limited frontline combat in the past two wars.
Most of the key players in the second world war banned women's frontline combat. That ban has only been lifted within the last few years in most of these countries. 2016 in the UK. Women provided lots of secondary roles. Anti aircraft guns, medical care, intelligence, engineering and good support work. To celebrate that work would be fine. But to rewrite history for the sake of pilot correctness is a lie. It is more political incorrectness. I won't support falsification of the truth to reflect current values in any form. We are in the process of killing our own human knowledge base based on agendas.
They should have changed the time period of set the game in a Wolfenstein style alternative reality. There is a huge disconnect between gaming companies. There are too many using horrible practices to suit the men in suits and PR departments over the gaming fans. This has worked moderately for a few years. Now with the internet having more direct input people's lives, people are being educated how wrong these practices are. The companies who are the worst here will kill themselves instead of changing. I just hope that when we come out the other side gaming has become a nice honest environment again in every way. Sadly when these companies begin to downsize and cut loved projects, they will blame the fans for voting against bad practice by not giving them support for it. I wish mobile gaming had never become a thing, because too many of the models came from there. It is destroying gaming for traditional gamers.
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But the SJW topic is just misleading.
BFV is full with issues, a small amount of maps, it feels like a downgraded game compared to other BF games. You may check Angry Joes review it helps to understand the issues with the game.
EA is just spinning the issues around.
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These types of posts always fascinate me. It's as if those who side with SJWs can't handle that they are not the majority. So, when the backlash leading up to the release of a product has to do with SJW messages contained within said product, or being pushed by the creator of the product, and it fails, people have to try to convince themselves its failure had nothing to do with those messages. BO4 is missing a major feature, the single-player campaign, and while its sales are down from the past entry, its nowhere near the decline that BF saw. There's a reason for that.
