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Keiji said:
VAMatt said:

Yeah, I already granted that 120 million is realistic.  

With that said, I do think that 120 million is pretty close to the correct lifetime total.  Sales will begin declining noticably next year, almost certainly. A price cut will help, of course. As will any new big games. But, big games six years into a generation don't move consoles like they do early in the generation.  Most of the buyers of those games already have a PS4.  

We do have a bit of an unknown factor this generation that we haven't had in the past. That's the mid generation upgrades. Certainly many people have, and will continue to upgrade from regular PS4 to a Pro.  I tend to think that that number will fall off pretty quickly though, as the people that would upgrade to a pro are also likely the ones that want to be in early in the next generation. So, presumably they would not buy a Pro if they expect a PS5 the next year. Nevertheless, the existence of the pro probably does help the lifetime sales numbers of the PS4.

This all of course assumes that PS5 is coming in 2020. If it doesn't come until 2021, the number will certainly be substantially higher.

Friendly bet ? I say 140M total Lifetime.

So, we set the over-under at 131.5 million?  That's halfway in between our predictions.