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quickrick on 30 November 2018
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StarDoor said:
quickrick said:

Its the consensus at resetera for 2 reasons people there think benji data>>> Nintendo data and they don't wanna believe any negative numbers till its 1000%  confirmed which why I can't  wait for the reactions when NPD comes out.

If you're so confident, then why can't you answer my simple questions?

1) How much did Switch sell before Thanksgiving?
2) How much did Switch sell between Thanksgiving and Cyber Monday?
RolStoppable said:
fatslob-:O said:

Why blame Nintendo's PR for your own ineptitude in not realizing that they used two different numbers ? The so called "mistake" that you keep touting is nothing more than a mirage you created ... 

Is there any justification to your claim of "wrong number" despite the margin of error being less then 30k and a little bit above 3% ? Your accusation of bias towards me makes no difference when you're the one that's off base trying as much as possible to deviate from the numbers that you don't like ... 

FWIW as far as the past comes, at least I based my thoughts on a real figure which were shipment projections while your scrambling about lost in finding a justification as to why Nintendo's internally collected data for the Switch is somehow "wrong" and you're back to having zero precedent as well ... 

I don't think I need to highlight the irony in how Nintendo data is good enough for you guys to throw the detractors in the mud but somehow the detractors can't use Nintendo against their fans so it's a one way street ... 

I dismissed the two statements because they provided no value in our in depth understanding of the Switch's sales, not because they were inaccurate or imprecise but comprehension issues abound anyways since that's all I've gotten out of you from this thread ... 

The justification for the wrong number is that it is wrong. Your claim is that Nintendo PR cannot be wrong and that's why there can't be a margin of error when Nintendo PR is supposed to know the numbers. By the way, the margin of error for April 2017 is 36k which is 13%, because the March numbers were already definitive fact, so the margin of error is calculated solely based on April numbers. The precedent of Nintendo PR being wrong on basic numbers remains.

In the past your thoughts were based on shipment projections without applying any logic to them. It was 100% clear to everyone who paid attention that Nintendo would beat their projection of 10m comfortably because Switch continued to sell through its shipments quickly. That's why you were thrown in the mud, because Nintendo's forecasted number was rightfully dismissed as being ultimately wrong, so all logical projections of Switch sales had to be notably above Nintendo's 10m. Switch ended up shipping 15m for the year.

It's the same case here. The 8.2m figure of Nintendo's PR is considered suspicious because the numbers don't add up. You and others have been repeatedly asked to lay out the maths for Switch sales in November, but no such attempt has been made by you guys. That leaves us with two options:

1. You guys comprehend maths and realize that the numbers don't add up, so you are content with trying to get a rise out of people.
2. You guys don't comprehend maths, so you don't even try in the first place.

Also, as has been pointed out, VGC isn't the only sales website where Nintendo's PR is called into question. It's the same on ResetEra. Do you believe in a widespread pro-Switch conspiracy?

Have we addressed the $250M in sales portion of the PR? $250,000,000/$300 per switch = 833,333 switch units and that's assuming zero software and other hardware sales. TAX no included.

pretty much confirms nintendo PR numbers being real, or i know nintendo made a mistake on those numbers as well.



Last edited by quickrick - on 30 November 2018