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bigtakilla on 28 November 2018
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RolStoppable said:
bigtakilla said:

Honestly another thing not mentioned that had GREAT impact when Wii U was just out the gate was 2 things (I'll even mention a 3rd that was kind of an aftermath, but also kept Wii U from gaining momentum).

1: An SKU literally no one wanted with the basic model. 8gb internal memory and no charging station at a price of $300 was simply just a no sale. I don't know who thought of making a SKU like that and actually keeping it for release without realizing it was a vast mistake was just an ignorant person tbh. 

2: Even with the SKU that people DID want (and make no mistake the 32gb model was sold out for the longest time I know I was extremely excited and was actively looking for months), it was sold at $350 when right around the time they started to become available again it was spring and E3 was right around the corner. Many people were now holding off due to Sony and Microsoft already announcing their systems would be shown at E3 2013. That completely took the wind out of Wii U's sales (lol) and sails as the PS4 would sell at a price point of $400 and Nintendo decided NOT to drop the price of the Wii U, not only for Black Friday but the entire holiday season. 

3(ish): 3rd parties were releasing big titles, but were always undercutting the Wii U. Call of Duty would have preorder maps and season passes on every other system to include PS3 and Xbox 360 that Wii U didn't get, Mass Effect only the 3rd title released while at the same time every other system was getting the trilogy, Games shown at E3 were falling off the map entirely or pushed back years, and Nintendo not having any huge game at launch was... I mean what were they thinking...

Conclusion: But was it really the hardware, as in what the Wii U could actually do? No, a LOT of there games looked absolutely stunning, even when compared to the other systems. I don't buy that at all. Was it third party wasn't there? Again not really. 2 Assassin's Creeds, 2 Call of Duty's, 2 Platinum Games exclusives, 3 Arkham games, Mass Effect 3, Watch Dogs, tons of crossovers from Pokken to Tokyo Mirage,  every 3D Zelda ever made by Nintendo accessible to include BOTW between it and the 3DS, the 3DS as it's counterpart... There is just a LOT I don't agree with in your typical "Dark Ages" post. Resurgence of Fire Emblem, New Luigi's Mansion, Splatoon, Mario Maker, Smash aimed towards competitive play, the 3rd party support it did get, and the bonds made between Bandai, Atlas, and Platinum Games.... Dark Ages... Not buying it.

1. Gimped SKUs exist so that a console can be advertised as "Starting at $299." - It's usually done when a console manufacturer is concerned about the regular SKU's price, and Nintendo's concern was warranted as we know in hindsight. $349 was too much.

2. Wii U being sold out already sounds like a fantasy story, but Wii U being sold out for months is crazy story territory. Also, Wii U received a price drop in September 2013, down to $299 from $349 for the SKU that was in higher demand.

3. I did allude to the fact that third parties wanted Wii U to fail.

Conclusion: The hardware was the problem in the previous generation. Not in terms of processing power, but in the sense that the market didn't want to play games on the 3DS and Wii U. The 3DS was much better off in the long run because its sole competition definitely sucked even harder, but the Wii U did not have the same fortune.

Third parties weren't on the Wii U. The fact that you are listing multiple first party games to talk up third parties shows how difficult it is to give a positive verdict to third parties.

The term "dark age" is certainly appropriate for the previous generation, because not only were hardware sales at the lowest point since Nintendo made both stationary and portable consoles, but Nintendo's financial results were also at their lowest point by a very comfortable margin.

1 didn't pay off at all and only served to hurt Nintendo I the end.

2 You are right that the one and only price drop did happen, my bad I thought it was 2014 it happened, still didn't help hey done nothing until what, 5 days after the PS4 released. As far as 8t being sold out, I can't post links in this on my phone, but a quick search shows the deluxe preorders were sold out, and they are always slow to replenish. I'll post when I get home from work.

3 We agree, but only as far as some third parties half assed support, not Wii U didn't have it.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2012/nov/19/wii-u-launch-us-problems

 

Ah there's one link, way to hard for it being 2018. Android phones do not like this site. Lol

Last edited by bigtakilla - on 28 November 2018