Global Hardware 3 November 2018

[DonFerrari]

SKMBlake said:

DonFerrari said:

PS4Pro sells about 1/5 of total sales and very likely without it sales of PS4 wouldn't be much impacted as most would just purchase vanila (100USD difference and all... just look if X1X have dented PS4/Pro sales even being stronger than both).

I disagree. Indeed, 1/5 sales are Pro sales. And a good amount of people who bought the Pro already owned a PS4 so there is an impact.

And don't compare to the X, nobody expected the X to reach PS4 Pro sales, 500$ is still way to expensive to compete with PS4 Pro.

A good amount sure, can you show exactly how much? Also can you show how many of these second time buyers wouldn't simply buy another PS4 for a different room in their house regardless of Pro being available? Get it, the impact of Switch being hybrid is much higher than any additional sales Pro is making. And funnily enough if you take 20% of PS4 sales this year it would still be tracking ahead of Switch.

Don't say nobody, there are people even in this thread crediting X1 60%+ increase on X1X existence. X1X is plenty more powerful and with better 4k implementation for 3rd parties (which is most of SW sales on both anyway) so many expected X1X to make a big impact.

Also as pointed out, when talking about aligned sales PS4Pro didn't exist at this point of the sales curve and PS4 was still 399, so 100 more expensive with a less big hitters being launched.

Nate4Drake said:

DonFerrari said:

PS4 is a true beast, it is quite impressive to still hold fine so late and without pricecuts.

And even after all questioning it still manages to keep ahead aligned against PS2 (I don't think it will outsell it, but so far it been doing great).

PS4Pro sells about 1/5 of total sales and very likely without it sales of PS4 wouldn't be much impacted as most would just purchase vanila (100USD difference and all... just look if X1X have dented PS4/Pro sales even being stronger than both).

I agree, no point in making the comparison with the PRO Model, 'cause we are talking about much more significant factors then a mid gen upgrade.  And XBox One X 

is the most striking proof ;) The weekly Gap with PS4 and Switch is increasing, not decreasing ;)

Well I can't disagree with you =p

Barkley said:

Kerotan said:

This is truly incredible. Nobody expect to be anywhere near Swich this year let alone beat it. 

Then what sales were everyone expecting according to you?

Go to see a lot of Amazon threads and NPD earlier on the year or last year and you'll see plenty of people expecting Switch to win. Even more when Sony project 16M for the year and Nintendo 20M. So at the very least they expected Switch to win.