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Kerotan on 20 November 2018
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Intrinsic said:
Kerotan said:

They just never stop underestimating the ps4 do they. Year 5 it's still full steam ahead year 6 will be the same. It has sold well at 299 all year. The console could sell for the next 5 years if they wanted. Only thing stopping it is the ps5. 

Yup. PS4 is that console that for some reason everyone wants to underestimate. Like they just can't accept that people actually want a PS4.

I don't see it pulling these kinda numbers next year though, especially when rumors of a PS5 are in full swing or even an announcement. Then its sales will be tied to pricing alone. And how low can sony really go. 

Well the thing is if Sony cut the price to $249 all next year it will sell well and if they cut the price to $199 in 2020 i will sell well regardless of a PS5 launched or not. The market for a $199 home console is drastically different to the market that buys a $400 brand new console. 

pxrocks said:
Why the 199$ ps4 not available worldwide.thats really dumb.

Because in in Europe, the middle east and Asia Sony are obliterating MS in the console battle. There's really no alternative to replace the PS4 in the minds of consumers here. In the US there is because Xbox is a very similar console so Sony are more aggressive there. They are implementing a hold strategy outside of NA. Maximum profits and returns from a market that have control of. It's smart business because Sony want to cancel out the losses from the PS3 ASAP and for the first time in their history turn Playstation int a massive money spinner for the company that's been a worthwhile investment from the start. The more money they make now the more they can justify investing into the PS5. 

Jaxyfoo said:
I think Amazon is throwing all of the tools off. They might well have settled the spat, but it is obvious that they have way worse relations with Sony. The result of this is that demand might be 400k PS4s, 300k Switches and 200k Xboxes. It seems from the outside, that they are ignoring the demand, and ordering in 100k PS4s, 300k Switches and 400k Xboxes.

It makes no sense. It obviously happened last year the same way, except 200k PS4s to keep Amazon in the frame. Do Amazon believe they can change demand? Do Microsoft and maybe Nintendo have a stock Warehouse close to Amazon for the holidays to keep the flow much better? All it has probably done is decrease Amazon being a one stop mail order shop for a growing number of Sony buyers full stop. The tool is not a magic psychic predictive Thing. It shows trends, in the way a form guide and weather report help when gambling. With Amazon no longer having a good say on overall results it will have affect, mainly on the holidays. This Doesn't take away from Symbios hard work, or good discussion in the threads. It might well reflect those overall trends moving into next generation, because the thought process is good.

I've never actually said it but I appreciate the effort Symbios puts into his thread, IMO the amazon thread should be merged into his thread as Amazon has become so unreliable lately it doesn't deserve it's own thread. Pus he covers it anyway an factors it in there so what's the point in having two. As for the spat. Sony don't need Amazon and Amazon don't need Sony.