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Barkley said:
Neodegenerate said:

They may count, as you still have to go through the store and redeem/"purchase" the games.  Not outside the realm of possibility that more people than not only download the 1 or 2 a year they might be interested and not the full suite of games each month.

No, the numbers make zero sense if you assume ps+ numbers are included. Let's take last quarter as an example.

Sony reported they sold 75.1m units of software and 28% of that number was digital.

That means they sold 54.1m software at retail.

Now if we assume just 20% of software is digital, and the other 8% is ps+ we get these numbers.

Retail - 54.1m

Digital- 15m

PS+ - 6m


They also revealed they had 34.3m ps+ subscribers at the end of that quarter, so as at least 7 PS4 games were offered that quarter (destiny 2 was a bonus game) there were 240.1m ps+ games offered that quarter.

So for ps+ downloads to be just 6m for the quarter that would mean only 2.5% were downloaded. I guarantee far more than 2.5% of people are like me and add every ps+ game to their library regardless of if they will play it or not.

It makes far more sense for the truth to be that ps+ figures are not included.

I agree with your general premise that they most likely are not included, but very much disagree with your assessment that 25 out of every 1000 are like you and adding every game.  Before the paywalled online I would've agreed completely.  Nowadays though, I think the number of people who have it because they want to be able to play their games online that have no idea there are also free games outweighs the number of people who "purchase" every game and I think both are dwarfed by the people who only go through the effort of getting the games they want.

 

Edit: That said, I would love to see official numbers from Sony on the engagement for PS+ games.  Would be interesting to have validation for one side or the other in all of it.