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Wyrdness said:
o_O.Q said:

"No Hitler pushed an ultra patriotic notion and vision of Germany and not adhering to the rest of the world "

which is irrelevant

 

'Hitler didn't rise up through oppression yet tried using that as a basis for your argument for guns to begin with."

why is your reading comprehension so bad?

i stated this like twice now

"hitler rose to power because people demanded more security from their government"

i hold the position that people should have the means to be able to defend themselves and not have that responsibility taken from them by governments, that is my argument for guns

"You do realize the Government already has so much power to begin with right they had it long before you were even born and still retain it."
it has great power that it should not have, but there are still essential rights citizens still have such as the right to self defense and citizens still have the ability to alter their government through voting and if they wanted to they could decrease the power of government through voting

"Tell us how are you and your little handgun or rifle going to stop things when they're too late?"
too late for what? the morons haven't given away all of our rights just yet
the point i'm making is that guns are there just in case they do

" If the military complies with the Government it won't be people with guns dealing with you it will be military vehicles like tanks and bombers which your guns do nothing against"
why would you assume that the military is a homogeneous?
you don't think there are people with differing opinions in the military?

Ironic you try complaining about reading yet it's you in that very statement who has not read the post properly congratulations on self ownage. The Government has great power to the point it allows you those rights that's the the point the are many loopholes and rules it uses to get around them and they're employed everyday an example was Bush's Government introducing a law preventing the families of those who are incarcerated from voting, the rule was later removed but long after Bush had gone and benefited from it.

You didn't answer the question you said guns are for when things are too late so how is that gun going to deal with tanks and bombers? The military has people with differing views but guess what they're all trained and conditioned to follow commands of those in charge many of them had differing opinions when going to Vietnam, Iraq or Syria but still did because they feel a sense of duty in doing so.

" The Government has great power to the point it allows you those rights"

this is not only stupid but dangerous thinking

the government is nothing without the consent of the people outside of dictatorships

 

" the rule was later removed"

exactly because the people chose to put someone there who removed it

 

"The military has people with differing views but guess what they're all trained and conditioned to follow commands of those in charge"

that's a big insult to the military to basically call them brainless slaves, its not only insulting but wrong