13 Dead in Shooting in Thousand Oaks California

[o_O.Q]

Wyrdness said:

o_O.Q said:

"That's a hyperbole itself you think guns are going to stop governments who have gunships and aircraft?"

oh ok so just bend over and take any abuse your government seeks to dish out at you... that's a bright idea man

 

" Look at your own country the lunatic in charge is flat out saying he wants to change this and that and you're all sitting around with little reaction that's how people like Hitler"

list one authoritarian policy trump has put in place since going into office?

wait hang on hang on did you not just try to express futility at the idea of opposing government?

 

"that's how people like Hitler and so on came into power"

hitler rose to power because people demanded more security from their government... wtf kinda like what's happening now... strange

but i wouldn't expect you to know that since that's never really discussed for some reason

 

"We have it figured out fine actually fact is what are you and your little hand gun going to do against aircraft dropping bombs and tanks? If the Government want to suppress you the only defence is not that gun you have it's if the military decides to comply."

governments have oppressed people for most of human history and have been overthrown for as long

why do you worship government like its some type of god?

Ironic that your own President is doing just that to your own country in targeting citizens of certain lineage and we every now and then hear of the problems some native american communities face in their land being taken for the Governments' own projects like oil pipes and all. People like yourself tend to not notice because at the moment it's not affecting you, that's how people like Hitler operated by the time it does affect you everyone else it did beforehand has already been suppressed making you the easiest target which is why your Hitler argument is more ironic than anything as he rose to power not through oppression but through the same political promises and process like everyone else the oppression only began when all avenues where clear and all his bases were covered and people had a false sense of security. That's why your notion that you need guns to stop that is the most comical defence the rest of the world finds because that old chestnut was for a time when people used bayonets and horses not long range bombers and tanks.

"we every now and then hear of the problems some native american communities face in their land being taken for the Governments' own projects like oil pipes and all"

well shit man you mean to tell me that governments can encroach too far onto the rights of the people? that's crazy talk

 

"that's how people like Hitler operated"

no, what hitler did was prey on fear of lack of security

 

"which is why your Hitler argument is more ironic than anything as he rose to power not through oppression but through the same political promises"

which is exactly what i said

"hitler rose to power because people demanded more security from their government"

 

"People like yourself tend to not notice because at the moment it's not affecting you"

"making you the easiest target"

really? even though i would rather the government had less power to intrude into the lives of people?

how do you put the two together i wonder?

you do realise that simply not giving government so much power to begin with is an alternative right? or has that not occurred to you?

 

". That's why your notion that you need guns to stop that is the most comical defence the rest of the world finds"

you need the guns when its too late and the morons in your country have thrown away the rights of everyone through democracy to have some means of opposition

the rest of the world doesn't have too good of a record as i have already mentioned

we have hitler's germany, the soviet union, mao's china etc etc etc as notable examples