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outlawauron said:
Jumpin said:

So you want to use the gang-ridden state of third world countries as the bar for acceptability for the United States?

No, not at all. Please don't put words in mouth.

The hyperbole from people who don't live in the US is tiring. There's never any genuine conversation.

This is true.  Many of the comments I usually see about this are either useless sarcasm, ridiculous comparisons, or unrealistic proclamations.