RDR2 Reviews! Metacritic - 97(PS4)/97(XBO) / Opencritic - 97

[Runa216]

AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Sunstrider said:

One man's trash is another man's treasure, no need to be disappointed if you've enjoyed a game, you really don't have to overthink things, there is no such thing as a perfect game.

Ehh ... you're right but I've been conflicted like that for years for just about any piece of entertainment. Which is why it's amazing when that rare near-perfect product (for my palette) comes along (Coen Brother movies). But most of the time I see people write negative things and I'm like "fuck, he's right ya know, now I gotta re-evaluate my opinion" and then I see someone write the opposite and i'm like "fuck ... that's equally true". 

Right now the RDR2 opinions thread has a lot of very valid complaints about the game ... but I'm still very impressed with it considering GTA4/RDR1/GTAV just weren't that good (moreso the GTAs than RDR1). 

Also I've long accepted that perfect products don't exist, just as objectivity doesn't. Still there are quite a few products I've experienced that might as well be perfect, it's just so rare.

Runa216 said:

I think it's less about the game's quality and more about an internal kickback because you don't think it's AS good as people say. Does BOTW and God of War and Horizon have problems? Sure they do, but those problems are quite minute compared to the vast amount of things they do well or outstanding. 

And the funny thing is, I don't even like Horizon Zero Dawn, I'm not interested in Spider-Man, and so far Red Dead Redemption hasn't grabbed my attention (it's been in my PS4 for a week and I haven't played it in five days), but that doesn't mean these games are bad, they're just not for me. Red Dead Redemption is clearly meant to be more of an immersive simulator with a great story than a 'gamey' game, and that's fine. For what it's trying to do it succeeded nearly perfectly but some people (myself included) didn't find its clunky control and movement engaging enough; it erred on the side of realism when some of us wanted a gamey game. 

And that's fine. 

That's especially true and what I was trying to get at. It's really more of an annoyance with myself than anything. It's not like I think BOTW is a 94 though and am obsessing over the small differences. It's that grey area of thinking which makes my brain hurt ... trying to evaluate how you feel about something, even worse when you want to score it, which is probably a partial reason why number scores are kind of bad anywyas. 

There's just never a clear path and I have to overthink things. But for what it's worth, I was very pleasantly surprised by Spider-Man, RDR2, and GOW2018 ... even if  they all have al ot of flaws and none of them I'd call absolutely amazing. 

Oh, I was totally agreeing with you, not arguing with you. 

And I found that the road to being content with things you don't like is a long and difficult one to travel but it really helps when you're in this position. Like you, I'm not super into Red Dead (At least not yet, that might change) and there are games I think are sorely overrated but my positive outlook has led me to focus more on what a game does good than what it does that doesn't work for me. For example, I agree with Red Dead's score due to all the things it did right even if the few things it did wrong make it unpleasant for me to play. At least for now. 

I think the key is optimism. Works for me, anyway.