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iron_megalith said:
Machiavellian said:

Yeah, so what.  I read that link a long time ago, where does it show that Dems support open boarder.  If anything that links says both Dems and Republicans support a path to citizenship for people already here.  

Supporting path to citizenship for illegal immigrants =/=  Strictly enforce immigration policies.

You can't reward law breakers and call it enforcing justice. First of all, it is not fair to those who played by the rules. That's like giving a medal to a guy who stole a car because he can't be late for work. One thing I can say is that I feel sorry for the kids that were dragged into this mess though.

You're right about it not saying Dems but neither does it say Republican so I don't what you're saying. However if you're deluded enough to think that California is not leaning more towards Democratic ideology then I'm out. :)

The 2 are not the same.  Giving amnesty to someone in prison isn't also equal to not enforcing our criminal justice system.  There are many reasons to give amnesty and its not black or white.  I already gave a detail reason why I believe amnesty has been brought up by both parties and its really not about rewarding illegal immigration instead its really about money.  If you every want to really understand what drives policy in the US, follow the money trail because you can believe it's helping one section or another.

As for California, I have no clue about the state.  I do not live there so its not something I concern myself with.  Doing a quick search it seems that California has been mostly blue due to the biggest cities being democrats.  From what I can see there are some very conservative parts and some moderates.  I highly doubt California will ever go GOP if the biggest cities always vote blue.