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routsounmanman said:

At the top is the original conversation between me and Mbolibombo. He argued that Namco Bandai is a solid supporter of the Switch, and I replied, in turn. I think one can clearly understand that I'm comparing Namco Bandai to Capcom, while "the worst" part is me arguing that Capcom is THE worst of ALL publishers on Nintendo's platform. Then, you mistakenly understood that I was talking about Konami, thus the clarification, and even called my wording "extremely bad". Please consider not being rude next time, English is not everyone's native language.

Apparently there's a vast difference in opinion here. Calling Capcom support on the platform anything other than bad is, to use your words, ridiculous. Rom dumps, very old games, butchered by either not being on the cart, no physical versions, coming months later, even cloud versions. Meanwhile, other platforms get RE7, Street Fighter, Marvel vs Capcom, etc (note that I'm not expecting new, modern games like RE2, all the above games are within Switch's capabilities). Xbox / PS4 got MH World on the same day worldwide, and even though I'm willing to accept that it might not be possible to port to the hybrid console, we didn't even get Generations until almost a year later, full price. If you're content with being treated like that, kudos.

And are you honestly calling Okami the best game on the platform? Even if that's true, I've played this game to death already. PS2, Wii, DS (Okamiden). I know and acknowledge that a good game is always great, but when 95% of your offerings on a platform (MM11 being the exception) are generations old, something's definitely wrong.

I don't really see how that's rude ... especially when you basically just said I was right:

"while "the worst" part is me arguing that Capcom is THE worst of ALL publishers on Nintendo's platform. Then, you mistakenly understood that I was talking about Konami,"

Wait ... what? You're saying the worst part is you arguing that Capcom is the worst of all publishers, then say I mistook you for thinking you were talking about Konami? How does that make any sense ... if you're talking about all publishers that includes Konami, which was my ENTIRE POINT from the get go. 

I've already dispelled this but you're free to repeat it again and again like Curl did before. Tons of the games are not old. Tons of them are not "rom dumps" (which would literally only describe the Mega Man collections and maybe the Street Fighter stuff, which is true for all platforms not just Switch). None of those are cloud versions because I didn't include RE7 in Japan, which would actually strengthen my point, because while it's not optimal ... it's better than nothing, and that country has the infrastructure to support it. This is crazy. routsounman: I listed the games for you. You don't have to do the work. I did it for you.

The problem becomes when you expect every individual game to fit ALL these criteria. To not be old at all, to not have any rom games available on the platform, to not have any possible download required. THAT'S when you see a publisher as entirely irrelevant or useless ... and honestly, while I agree with some of the criticisms, I'd rather actually enjoy the games and appreciate the support than just go on and on about a publisher who's treated the platform better than most. I'm going to say something to you that might sound crazy, but bear with me: games coming as half downloads, is not a problem. People complain about it because they like to complain. Most of the fault is on Nintendo for not including more storage from the get go ... since this is a common thing on PS4 and Xbox even with games that can fit on blu ray discs. Would it be great if it all came on a cart? Absolutely, but at this point you're just using any criteria to downplay what has been pretty good support. It could be better, and there are certainly issues but I'm tired of seeing people act completely pessimistic on the subject. There's a difference between thoughtful critique and acting like these publishers are the worst of the worst - when really they're offering some of the most relevant, quality titles on the system. Whether that says more about the Switch or the companies themselves is up to you to decide, however given the circumstances of overall third party support thus far, I think it's the former. 

I don't even see why some of the stuff you listed is negative anyways. Resident Evil Revelations 2, Monster Hunter Generations, and Mega Man 11 are not old games, no matter what platform the former two have been on. It's not like Capcom is just funding the Neo Geo collection. They're providing titles that fit well on the platform, whether they are backlog games or not. Which ... should be the goal of pretty much every developer? All the games fit well, and enough of them are new that I don't feel cheated like with some other publishers. I'm failing to see the argument against them being a good publisher for the system other than just word dressing. Word dressing is fine if you can explain why it's relevant. 

...I didn't even say best game on the platform I said it's the best handheld game on the platform. 4 hour battery life, beautifully aged graphics, touch controls. I don't think that part could be any more clear ... 

Edit: At this point I don't really care ... we can just agree to disagree I guess. 

Last edited by AngryLittleAlchemist - on 06 November 2018