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Torillian on 28 October 2018
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DrDoomz said:
Torillian said:

not matter at all? sure. But I don't know how many rappers or comedians with poor rhetoric it would take in my mind to equal one president. I would argue that once we get the president to not use divisive rhetoric we can worry about random entertainers. 

politicians on the left sure, but random entertainers I just don't see how it's on anywhere near the same level. Those entertainers aren't making policy decisions that affect every american so if they want to be stupid and divisive it doesn't effect nearly as many people. 

His ability to make policy decisions shouldn’t matter all that much. It doesn’t make his words that much more powerful or influential after all. Or at least with me (and I would assume the general random normal person). Someone going “hey go punch that guy” doesn’t make me want to punch someone more just because he is suddenly President. I mean not unless he says in it an Independence Day-esque speech with music playing in the background (and even then just maybe). Are you talking about higher reach, maybe? Idunno, explain it to me.

It would maybe make his intentions more clear. And that should perhaps worry you if your policies are something you disagree with.

Well it is the job of entertainers to incite an emotional response with their target audience. I would argue that someone like Madonna could get a random crazy just as riled up (or even more) than someone like Trump given equal reach/coverage as they are far better at it.

You don't think that the president's words have more impact and authority behind them than Madonna's? I would argue that it's much easier to feel justified in something when someone from a position of authority says it rather than someone whose music you like. 

I also notice that you said "given equal reach/coverage" but that's not the case s it? The president has far more reach and coverage as he should in most cases. 

All of this is assuming we're limiting the discussion solely to one's ability to "rile up a crazy person". Looking at the questions more holistically though, I think you cannot underestimate the importance of someone being able to put their divisive thoughts into practice through policy. 



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