Japan losing interest in sex, relationships, and having kids

[Ganoncrotch]

Final-Fan said:

Ganoncrotch said:

Exactly it isn't, which is why I think the figures have been fucked with even more to give us that headline, while it looks like it serves no purpose if list the actual ages of the survey then it should be more accurate. To include people in the ages of 0-18 by using terms like "people under 40" you allow yourself more room to fluff figures to suit a dramatic headline.

You could well be correct in which people are being polled but that doesn't mean those numbers aren't being used for the headline is what I mean, say if you get the results from the survey and it tells you that 25% of people from 20-40 are virgins, that isn't a huge headline is it? but as you've done yourself you can deduce that the survey wasn't done on anyone under the age of consent because they are going to be presumed to not be having sex so the can still be added into a result if you want to as 100% virgin it's just when the headlines are pushing the below 40 mark I'm always skeptical because it allows them room to add in extra multiplying factors which make the headline more.... headliney.

 

Lets say you ran a survey to see how many men had 1 testicle instead of 2, you survey a large range of males and find that the number is slight say .... why did I get into this line lol but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monorchism yeah it's a thing it happens but if the figures from that were remotely high say 5% it still wouldn't give you a great headline, but it could still be manipulated into a grand headline given that injury and testicular cancer are reasons for the removal of them if you wanted to suggest the situation was far more common you could pose the results of your scenario that the % of men with 1 or fewer gradually increased with age, in fact by the age of 60 over 50% of all people are missing one or both testicles. Dramatic increase, now it has eyebrows raised... by the age of 60 you might have lost a testicle! Now you're clicking and talking about it. The reality is the wording has been altered, 50% of people of all ages are missing testicles, they're called women, they don't need to be surveyed to include them in the people who are missing said part of the body but if you phrase it as I've done above no misinformation has been done by me, simply inclusion of people I know to be on the side of the scale that I want to represent as being larger than it is.

 

I'm just saying, never look at the headline from a survey  like this and skip over an "oversight" such as including the ages 0-18, very rarely are figures omitted or submitted to a survey analysis unless they're there for a good reason.

Ganon, it bothers me somewhat that you are still talking like your "toddlers included" scenario is a plausible explanation.  I typed japan 2015 national fertility survey into Google and literally the first result was a link to the survey's homepage.  The first link on that page, "Highlights", which is also the second Google result, contains proof that your idea is totally without merit in this case.

NEVER-MARRIED MALE RESPONDENTS WHO HAVE NEVER HAD INTERCOURSE WITH THE OPPOSITE SEX (2015) on page 6

18-19	72.8
20-24	47.0
25-29	31.7
30-34	25.6
Total (18-34)	42.0

It literally took me longer to put together that table than it did for me to find the information in it.  Why didn't you find it first?  Or do you still maintain that your claim has merit?

An equally likely explanation:  An additional 40% of young Japanese are homosexual. 

you could equally google "what percentage of Japanese are married" and see what % have married and of course consummated the marriage.

First result.

Marriage in Japan - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_in_Japan

  

 

According to the 2010 census, 58.9% of Japan's adult population is married,

59% of the population, almost 2/3rds of the entire group surveyed are not included in that result, even if just 16% of the remaining population were having sex that would give you 75% of the actual adult population are having sex, meaning less than 1 in 4 is a sex robot banging weeb in comparison to the "almost half" which the initial click bait headline would try to push.

I wasn't going into the exact study beyond the article Final-Fan I was more interested in the sensational sex robot infested Japan filled with virgins story being incorrect and trying to make a point about how articles like this one either include or remove a group of people to fluff the numbers, in this case the obvious one I missed out on was that 59% of the population there is married and banging, of the remaining 41% of that... 42% are virgins as per the group recorded.

42% of 41% is 17.22% of the age ranges you've listed there are virgins.

 

Now of those 17.22% who filled out the survey and said they were virgins I'd ask you to consider taking a look at the cultural differences in Japan in some area's of dating , I found a decent read on it (fairly long) but it's interesting none the less.

https://www.japanpowered.com/japan-culture/dating-marriage-japan

But the part I was interested in is here at

"Unlike the West, Japan never associated virginity with chastity and purity. The closest idea to the Western virgin was the otome (maiden) who was thought to be lacking sexual desire in addition to experience. The Western ideas of virginity in relationship to marriage – that is,  a woman should remain virgin for her husband – didn’t appear until the 19th century (McLelland, 2010). This isn’t to say it was okay for women to have sex. During the Tokugawa Period, both men and women could be considered adulterers. Married women, unlike men, were penalized.  Women were property of husbands or fathers. Adultery was a property dispute that was left to the decision of those involved. Punishment could be everything from a fine to death"

So in recent history it has become a part of their culture that sex should be something that happens after a long relationship and often until marriage has happened, so.... while I'm not saying those 17% are all holding out for their true love, there is a chance that some % of that could be, but also a chance that a % of them answered the survey in a way which they felt their culture is more expecting them to, that is to say they're a virgin since they're unmarried since it's a loaded question with a stigma over it.

 

edit - Out of interest based on the final line of your post, do you not consider homosexuals to be capable of having sex? I'm not sure I understand what you were getting it?