US Medicare For All Bill as good as dead now?

[Mr Puggsly]

SpokenTruth said:

Mr Puggsly said:

Obviously I mean universal at a state level, its not a new concept I'm creating. I'm not even sure why we use the word universal, maybe it just sounds nice but it was the language used in Vermont when they were considering it.

Just raise taxes on everybody and businesses which would happen anyway. Also limit who can benefit from the healthcare system but can't contribute. Hence, don't allow people to come into the state just to sponge off the system.

You, you really missed the point.  What I'm saying is that a single state system cannot implement the type of price control needed to make it viable.  Testing it on one state limits the feasibility by default.   You can't cut a leg off of someone and then ask them to run a mile in under 4 minutes.

I feel like saying it won't work in a state is admitting there isn't enough people to steal from. It can be viable in a state with high taxes, price controls and limitations on who can take advantage of it.

Frankly, there are a lot of things government can do to lower the cost of healthcare without just taking control of it. And even then, private options are still in demand.