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Torillian said:

In the case I am referencing republican lawmakers asked for voter information by race and then made laws that disallowed the kind of ID that black people use and closed polling centers in places that were mostly black. So yeah, that voter ID law was racist. It's quite possible that it was done solely from a rational of "they don't vote for us" but the end result is still racist and the courts agree. 

Can I get a link to that? I've never heard that before.

Besides, what would he need extra voter info by race for? You want race info, just look at the census done every so many years. On those, you have to list race, ect. They could tell then what district race make-up is and just look at the prior voting results and extrapolate from there how races are voting.

Most voter ID situations I hear involve wanting voter ID. People screaming its discriminatory, and yet the state saying they will provide free ID's. So even "IF" the id's black people had (why would their ID's be any different than anyone else's?) were not allowed, they could just go and get a new one for free.

They didn't want just where black people voted, but when and what kind of ID they were using. 

"“[P]rior to enactment” of the law, the Fourth Circuit explained, “the legislature requested and received racial data as to usage of the practices changed by the proposed law.” Released from the obligation to clear their law with the Justice department and “with race data in hand, the legislature amended the bill to exclude many of the alternative photo IDs used by African Americans.” Photo IDs used more often by black voters, including public assistance IDs, were removed from the list of acceptable identification, while IDs issued by the Department of Motor Vehicles—which blacks are less likely to have—were retained. Cutting the first week of early voting came in reaction to data showing that the first seven days were used by large numbers of black voters, nixing one Sunday on which churches would bus “souls-to-the-polls”. Banning same-day registration, too, had an outsize effect on blacks, as did the prohibition on out-of-precinct voting: both changes made voting harder for people who had recently moved, and blacks are more itinerant than whites."

http://electionlawblog.org/wp-content/uploads/nc-4th.pdf

https://www.economist.com/democracy-in-america/2016/08/01/north-carolina-voter-id-law-is-struck-down-as-racially-discriminatory



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