‘Rape Culture’ Is A MYTH | Change My Mind

[DonFerrari]

Qwark said:

DonFerrari said:

1. I love the argument of the fetus leeching the energy of the mother and then it being valid to abort...

So a relative since he have to work a lot, giving much more stress to his body over 18 years (or more) to support the child than a 9 months pregnancy can also decide the kid should die because the relative doesn't want to be leached anymore?

• Another one I love is equating drunk sex with rape... as if both being drunk and having sex translate to female victim and male rapist, like she wasn't conscious enough to agree, but he suddenly was to be criminalized.

1. Yeah I did not get that one either especially since there are a million way to prevent any woman from getting a Child. 

2. You kind a have to too get to the 1 in 5 figure, hell a girl was druk an had sex with a guy and regrets it afterwards probably happened to way more girls. But if that's the main issue, than alcoholism seems to be the prior source of rape, not some presumed society who supports rape.

3. In the end both cases are about people who refuses to take rensponsibility for their damn actions. If you get so drunk you can't really react to anything (you can say no to free drink its a two letter word for fuck sake) and have sex with someone and later regret it, I would not call it rape. I would call it being very stupid and because of that you have been taken advantage off, sucks for you but I would not lable it as rape.

Same for abortion, getting pregnant by accident is pretty impressive these days to begin with, but for the sake of argument lets say you are that 1 or 2% of people that got pregnant while using condoms or/and the pill etc. You still got 20 weeks to legaly abort your foetus. If you don't act within that time than bitching about it has little to nothing to do with freedom, but more with the right to being neglectful without concequence, the world doesn't and will never work like that. 

1 - And pregnancy not being a disease nor threatening anyone's life to equate the fetus to a leech or equate not donating your kidney.

2 - I guess women would generally feel more regret over dumb actions than men, but I have seem people in VGC trying to put even when both are equally drunk the girl was rapped.

3 - I wouldn't get drunk in a place or with people I don't trust.

About abortion, I'm totally against (but wouldn't forbid through government coercion). When I think about accidental pregnancy I can only imagine someone walking and slipping in a skate, unfortunately landing on a men lap and immediate pregnancy. Like it can't be accident when the sole outcome of sex can only be pregnancy. So doesn't matter how many precautions you take, you must be willing to accept the consequences. You can't abort AIDS, but people want a world as free of consequence as possible.