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sundin13 said:
o_O.Q said:

also if prison rape is included men are the victims of rape to a higher degree than women but of course we don't count hat because fuck men right?

I think the distinction between prison rape and non-prison rape is that prison rape is not indicative of culture at large. It is certainly indicative of the culture within prisons and it is certainly quite a large issue on its own, but I think one would be remiss to make conclusions about society by discussing conditions in prison. Further, I don't believe this is an issue with a lack of care for men (although I wouldn't deny that there is a certain disregard for male victims, especially when those victims have been victimized by a woman), I believe it is a lack of care for convicted criminals. Which isn't right, but again, not really indicative of much outside of prison walls (this is evidence by the following).

It is also worth noting that when speaking about prevalence, the issue is actually significantly more pronounced for female inmates. The difference in raw numbers is a result of population size. As we are discussing "culture", prevalence would be a more accurate means of measuring the issue here...

According to this study (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2438589/) inmate-on-inmate sexual victimization is 4x more likely among female prisoners than male prisoners, while this study (https://ps.psychiatryonline.org/doi/full/10.1176/ps.2007.58.8.1087# - See Table 3) seems to put that number around 2-3x more likely

"I think the distinction between prison rape and non-prison rape is that prison rape is not indicative of culture at large."

this coming from someone entertaining the idea that the culture of modern western countries normalises rape is pretty rich don't you think?

 

"I think one would be remiss to make conclusions about society by discussing conditions in prison. "

and who did so? my argument is that men are the victims of rape more so than women, which i suppose you agree on, therefore, rape is a greater threat to men than to women

i wasn't talking about the culture at large because to any rational person the understanding is that society deeply abhors rape to the point where it is considered the most heinous crime just under murder

 

"Further, I don't believe this is an issue with a lack of care for men"

which doesn't really matter, men understand from very early that they need to take care of their issues

 

"As we are discussing "culture", prevalence would be a more accurate means of measuring the issue here..."

ok why is rape more prevalent against men than against women?