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Pachofilauri said:
setsunatenshi said:

I was kind of with you on the argument until you brought in the abortion thing to misrepresent the pro choice principle. It's not like you can't have an opinion on abortion, but the principle of self determination overwhelms your opinions on it. It's 100% a woman's choice how she intends to use her body and no one can impose the physical drain of carrying anything within her body against her will.

 

Her body, her choice, period. 

I don't want to start another argument here, but what you are saying only works if the girl is raped. When i woman is raped and gets pregnant am 100% on board with abortion. But when they choose to have sex they have to face the consequences, they know what can happen if they have unprotected sex, or even the chances of getting pregnant using condoms or pills. 

No, it doesn't.

You're acting like people have sex with the main purpose of having kids. No.

Humans have sex because they are hardwired by nature to find pleasure in it. For many it's one of the pleasures that makes life worth living. Only if you have a worldview in which people should somehow be "punished" with the consequences of sex is how you justify that sentence "But when they choose to have sex they have to face the consequences".

These people don't lose their fundamental human rights to their body autonomy because they did something everyone can normally do. 

It's a very twisted way of looking at things if you feel the need to unnecessarily burden someone else or limit their rights because they did something that nearly every animal in this world is bound to do (fucking). 

So, stripping the punishment element out of your statement, the fundamental right of body autonomy precedes that of a different organism of feeding off of your body against your will.