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EricHiggin said:
setsunatenshi said:

When the man can carry a pregnancy inside his body, he'll get the right to decide. 

I don't give any woman the right to decide what happens inside my testicles just because they carry potential life. 

What about woman who define themselves as men, who become pregnant?

You do. The fact you require consent, even though you could do with her as you please, means she has the right to control your body to a degree.

That's like saying when a woman can physically defeat a man she'll be given the right to decide, but until then, don't tell men what they can and can't do with their bodies, even though what they do with those bodies, may negatively impact woman. We agree that's not fair because men and woman aren't the same biologically, so the men are expected to withhold their physical strength to overpower a woman. Why is the fact a woman is different biologically in terms of reproductive organs, a good enough reason to negatively impact men then? If we all agree that men shouldn't rape woman because that's harmful to woman, then we should also be able to agree that woman shouldn't be able to kill the unborn because that's harmful to men.

This is part of the reason why I'm not entirely on board with abortion, yet would be willing to compromise to at least make it as acceptable for as many as possible.

You missed the point so radically that I'm not sure english is your first or second language even. 

 

Woman that identify as a man or as a horse makes no difference, only she has the right to decide what life her body supports. If she wants to carry a pregnancy full term that's fine, if she doesn't that's her choice too. Can you follow so far?

 

The father's input should be as valid as the mother's as soon as the child is born. Until that point, as long as only the fetus is leeching off of the mother's life force, only her input is really important on wether she wants to carry it full term or terminate the pregnancy. 

 

Will you somehow misinterpret this? I was never about physical dominance and who is stronger, I have absolutely no idea where you came up with that. A woman not deciding what goes on inside my testicles has nothing to do with some rape fantasy you came up with (how the hell did you even go there?)