US Medicare For All Bill as good as dead now?

[Mr Puggsly]

Puppyroach said:

Mr Puggsly said:

Its incredibly naive to think the public options is going to be at par with the private option. If that was the case, there wouldn't really be a reason for the private option to exist.

Our government already spends a fortune providing healthcare services to about 1/3 of the country with mixed results.

The wealthy already pay a vast majority of the taxes. For the most part, people want to keep their private options. If the government forces people to pay your hypothetical $1000 into the public option, many may not be able to afford the private option they prefer.

So yeah, some sort of public options existing as option is something many people would support. But don't be surprised if people oppose the government takeover of healthcare. Primarily because we have little faith in government to operate that.

Well, we have that setup in our country, kind of like the US model within education with public schools and charter schools (we also have charter schools).However, private alternatives would likely never be able to exist without government funding. 

I'm not sure what your point is exactly... but even with school people want alternatives to the public option. Republicans and libertarians actually argue for the voucher system, which allows parents to use money that would go to a public schools to pay for private school instead. Charter schools function with less money than public school just to operate with less interference.

Personally, I think blue states like New York or California should create universal healthcare at a local level and see how that goes. Force everybody in the state to pay a new high tax they can't opt out of, even those happy with their private option. Then lets wait and see how many people escape or vote red.