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CGI-Quality said:
starcraft said:

Do we know that? VGC isn't that accurate for games these days, but it lists recent Forza and GT installments as selling similarly (to wildly different userbase sizes as well).

Wikipedia lists GT6 (2013) as selling less than half what GT5 (2010) did, and GT Sport as selling 3.3m (though at a year old, this could yet sell more). VGC puts FM3 at around that, not including digital. And we were recently told that FM3 has nearly 10 million players - if even half those bought a copy of the game it'd be ahead of the most recent GT release, and in line with the most recent headline GT release. And all that, again, on a much smaller userbase.

I agree that this probably wasn't the thread for the comparison, but I do think its interesting that the once undisputed leadership or racing is now very much up for grabs!

Until something changes, I'd peg GT as the bigger franchise either way. But really, the comparison was needless, so there really isn't any need to even elaborate any further on it (and Wiki is the worst source for sales data, btw :P).

No its not both Gran Turismo and Forza Motorsports are nowhere as popular as they used to be and GT Sports sales are in a rapid decline last time it was in the top 75 was August 4th.  Meanwhile Forza Horizon popularity is skyrocketing FH3 passed 10 million players not that long ago and since FH4 is also on Game Pass and a better game overall it will get to 10 million players as lot faster.  The only other racing game that is currently more popular then the Horizon series is Mario Kart.